Know Your Lore: The Old Gods

The World of Warcraft is an expansive universe. You're playing the game, you're fighting the bosses, you know the how -- but do you know the why? Each week, Matthew Rossi and Anne Stickney make sure you Know Your Lore by covering the history of the story behind World of Warcraft.
Before the night elves' grand civilization covered the land of Kalimdor, before the troll empire fought the aqir, before the arrival of the titans, they ruled Azeroth. Throughout the cosmos and even on alien worlds, their presence can be felt. Implacable, corruptive, powerful, creators of madness and strife, even in defeat they may never truly be defeated. They exist on many worlds and in many forms, and wherever they exist, chaos, insanity and destruction always follow. They are the ultimate manifestations of the cthonic, the primordial forces of madness that underpin sane, static reality.
They are the Old Gods. And nothing can stop them.
Before the night elves' grand civilization covered the land of Kalimdor, before the troll empire fought the aqir, before the arrival of the titans, they ruled Azeroth. Throughout the cosmos and even on alien worlds, their presence can be felt. Implacable, corruptive, powerful, creators of madness and strife, even in defeat they may never truly be defeated. They exist on many worlds and in many forms, and wherever they exist, chaos, insanity and destruction always follow. They are the ultimate manifestations of the cthonic, the primordial forces of madness that underpin sane, static reality.
They are the Old Gods. And nothing can stop them.
Harbinger Skyriss - The ArcatrazIt is a small matter to control the mind of the weak... for I bear allegiance to powers untouched by time, unmoved by fate. No force on this world or beyond harbors the strength to bend our knee... not even the mighty Legion!
Please note, there will be spoilers for Cataclysm in this post.

What we do know about the Old Gods, we know from their demented followers and minions, really. It's rare that we get much of a chance to talk to an Old God directly, and even when we do, they have a tendency to rant, rave and drive others insane rather than to have much in the way of a discussion. Part of this can be directly attributed to the corrupting nature of these entities, which revels in chaos and tainting and warping the creations and natures of others. In addition, generally the Old Gods (at least the two that have been directly encountered in game to date, C'thun and Yogg-Saron) have a tendency to engage in cryptic or pseudo-prophetic speeches when encountering those minds strong enough to endure their presence for any period of time.
All Old Gods seems to share the following traits: a tendency to warp, twist, deform and drive mad all living things that spend enough time in their proximity. C'thun did this directly in the case of the proto-silithid that became the aqir and later the qiraj, while Yogg-Saron seems to have done so in the making of the Faceless Ones. A third Old God is revealed in Cataclysm, and this entity likewise seems to make use of twisted, corrupted followers. All known Old Gods of Azeroth seem to have the power to either directly or indirectly control or manipulate elementals even to the point of being able to control the most powerful elementals, the Elemental Lords.
Finally, the Old Gods are the only entities in creation known to have ever gone toe to toe with the titans and, if not outright win, then not exactly lose, either. It's true that the Pantheon was sufficiently powerful to imprison three Old Gods within the crust of Azeroth and reorder the roiling elemental chaos these unfathomable alien minds preferred into the world of oceans, continents, rivers and forests that the mortal races inherited. It's also true that C'thun fought a titan to a standstill, and that titan's name is lost to us today, as both Old God and titan fell in that battle. (We do not know if that titan did die, or even if titans can die.) Today, while locked in their ancient prisons, the Old Gods reach forth tendrils of influence and corrupt races, lands, even one of the dragon aspects created by the titans and vouchsafed with watching over Azeroth.
The Old Gods are unfathomable to mortal minds. They seem to delight in chaos, anarchy and constant elemental warfare, pitting the enormously powerful elemental lords against one another seemingly as a form of amusement. The Burning Legion under Sargeras has a twisted ethos that maintains that all existence is a mistake and that all things should be reduced back to entropic nothingness; in contrast, the Old Gods have no ethos, no morality and operate through a raw amorality (one might even say they transcend things like motives and ethics) that seeks nothing more than endless, meaningless, motiveless destruction for its own sake. Under the Old Gods rule, nothing like a society or civilization could ever arise. It's telling that even their former servitors, the Elemental Lords, do not seek their return or serve them willingly, rather seeming to be compelled through powerful sorceries such as the Cipher of Damnation. When even Ragnaros fears and hates something, you know it's bad news. Today, the Old Gods on Azeroth often operate through the Twilight's Hammer cult, who seek the ultimate destruction of the world.

The three named Old Gods as of the Cataclysm expansion appear to be C'thun, Yogg-Saron and Soggoth the Slitherer. C'thun resides in the corrupted city of Ahn'Qiraj, once a satellite city of the Uldum complex seized by his qiraji followers. It is unknown if the complex was built around C'thun by the titans to observe the fallen Old God or if the qiraji moved his regenerating form there afterwards, but based on C'thun and Yogg-Saron's massive size, it seems unlikely that he was moved.
Yogg-Saron was likewise trapped beneath Ulduar in the distant north of the original proto-continent of Kalimdor long before it was shattered into three large pieces during the ancient Sundering. From this location Yogg-Saron sent out its corrupting influence, which can be tracked from the Howling Fjord and Grizzly Hills to the very Icecrown Glacier itself in the form of saronite. Even the very walls of Icecrown Citadel are, in a sense, made out of Yogg-Saron.
Yogg-Saron was likewise trapped beneath Ulduar in the distant north of the original proto-continent of Kalimdor long before it was shattered into three large pieces during the ancient Sundering. From this location Yogg-Saron sent out its corrupting influence, which can be tracked from the Howling Fjord and Grizzly Hills to the very Icecrown Glacier itself in the form of saronite. Even the very walls of Icecrown Citadel are, in a sense, made out of Yogg-Saron.

Finally we have Soggoth the Slitherer, the "new'"Old God we're learning about in Cataclysm. He's not exactly new ... If you've been to Darkshore and seen the Master's Glaive, with the enormous sword protruding from a vaguely nautoloid skull, you've seen Soggoth. Defeated after a battle that destroyed 20 of the titans' stone giant servants, Soggoth lay buried in Darkshore for untold thousands of years until the Cataclysm disturbed his prison and the Twilight's Hammer began working to free it from torpor.
Next week we begin looking at each individual Old God known to us in more detail, starting with the first one seen in World of Warcraft, the malevolent C'thun.
Next week we begin looking at each individual Old God known to us in more detail, starting with the first one seen in World of Warcraft, the malevolent C'thun.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 4)
Matthew Jul 21st 2010 8:07PM
Given so much of Warcraft lore is about corruption (orcs, illidan, death wing, arthas [by the runeblade] etc.) it's fitting that the Old Gods were a source of what is frankly mental illness. It's also fitting that this problem endures. Like happiness and liberty, these problems will continue to plague humanity (azerothity?) for eons.
Even without the Old Gods, there would be the problems of the Old Gods
Alanid Jul 21st 2010 8:13PM
As far as I was aware the master glaive was a very powerful servant of an old god... but not actually on old god himself. Is it possible that Soggoth is locked underground nearby? Or does it directly say, "hey, this is Soggoth, say hi!"?
eyeball2452 Jul 21st 2010 8:13PM
Thumbs up. I'm really enjoying these columns.
H Jul 21st 2010 8:14PM
is this just after your whole huge-amounts-of-oldgods podcast?
I'm loving it, as a new commentor and listener, but long-time player x
(relatively..)
MusedMoose Jul 21st 2010 9:06PM
Which podcast was that? I love the lore behind the Old Gods - I'm a big fan of Lovecraft, and the Old Gods are clearly inspired by his work. If you can tell me which podcast you're talking about, I'd really appreciate it.
devilsei Jul 21st 2010 8:17PM
Honestly, I believe the Twilight Hammer has been working to release Sloggoth well before the Cataclysm strikes. I only dabbled allliance side, but I keenly remember being sent to The Masters Glaive to investigate what the cultists were doing.
Callimaco Jul 21st 2010 8:25PM
"The Burning Legion under Sargeras has a twisted ethos that maintains that all existence is a mistake and that all things should be reduced back to entropic nothingness; in contrast, the Old Gods have no ethos, no morality and operate through a raw amorality (one might even say they transcend things like motives and ethics) that seeks nothing more than endless, meaningless, motiveless destruction for its own sake."
Walter Sobchak: Nihilists! F*** me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
Cadros Jul 21st 2010 8:44PM
You're phones ringin', Dude.
DOGE Jul 22nd 2010 2:33AM
Ja,wie belief in nassing'.
david_maurice Jul 21st 2010 8:27PM
PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH CTHULHU R'LYEH WGAH'NAGL FHTAGN
dodgeballer2005 Jul 21st 2010 8:43PM
Challenges: There's Nintendo hard, then there's Pronouncing Cthulu Hard.
Tyr Jul 21st 2010 9:52PM
Seems like a usefull skill to have. I for one, welcome our slithering overlords.
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So hop right on the sacrificial dish!
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Felix_NZ Jul 21st 2010 9:07PM
I wonder about the intelligence of the Old Gods, whether behind the crazed ramblings that infect the mind of anyone who is near them belies an actual purpose or whether they're straight up Chaos elementals so to speak, they just don't know anything else other than madness and turmoil.
Hallower Jul 21st 2010 9:28PM
I think you might be on to something with the "chaos elemental" idea.
The Old Gods' claim to fame is the Curse of Flesh which made the sentient inhabitants of Azeroth what they are today...soft squishy flesh and blood beings. Ever since "fleshies" became the dominant life forms of Azeroth, war and turmoil became synonymous with their very existence. In short, they brought chaos to the ordered world of post-Titan Azeroth.
By constantly warring with each other and the subsequent collateral damage done to the planet because of it the Alliance and the Horde are, in small part, helping to accomplish what the Old Gods cannot do from the confines of their prisons. The Twilight's Hammer members are just more active in helping to spread the chaos.
MusedMoose Jul 21st 2010 9:28PM
It's also possible that they're so far beyond most beings' ways of thinking that the only way to deal with the touch of an Old God's mind is madness.
Sithril Jul 21st 2010 9:40PM
Or more specificly - when you try to understand, you go mad from it, either it's way beyond what your mind can process or the truth itself drives you insane.
The mortals mind has many limitations compared to that of an Old God. It's like a small machine into which you throw the wrong gears or way too much oil and it fizzles and explodes or brakes appart.
I like the idea of "the manifests of Chaos". It goes directly againts the Titans being the embodiment of order. But I thought that they were more like the embodiment of pure darkness/evil, but those two don't exclude each other. I'd really like to find out some day how do they interact with the Naaru or the Light. We know how does Legion-Titans, Titans-Gods, Legion-Naaru interact , but the Naaro-Titans/Old Gods relation has never been clearified.
Misanthrope Jul 21st 2010 9:21PM
Or, you know, a powerful servant of the old gods can make his own avatars without being an old god himself. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he was PART of, but not the entirety of, an Old God, much like how the Forgotten One wound up being part of Yogg-Saron.
J Jul 21st 2010 9:27PM
Are the cultists digging up another one in Twilight Highlands? Or have the moved the one from Darkshore to there? Since both skulls are identical even to having the same sword sticking out of the same spot.
Tokhand Jul 22nd 2010 8:19AM
From the SPOILERS I've been reading, the Twilight Cultists have awakened enough of the Old God in Darkshore, making It fleshy enough again and taking the glaive out, and have moved it to the Twilight Highlands. That giant tentacle thing from those videos from a few weeks ago is to be Soggoth, fresh from Darkshore.
I read it is supposed to work through a long questline and phasing mechanics.
Noz. Jul 21st 2010 9:45PM
We always have the idea of the Old gods being the bad guys. but...
Those who lose in wars, always become the bad guys to the winners but consider that Azeroth's natural state was Chaos and war.
Then Azeroth got invaded by the Titans who changed Azeroth Natural state.
Ye' know, everyone talks of the Old God corruption as a mental Illness, yet, i find that the Old gods are trying to drive Azeroth to its original form. One could say that the Titans corrupted Azeroth.
Oh god.. i know belong to the Twilight Hammer.