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7-22-2010 @ 8:08PM
Good luck with hard modes without a Holy Pally.
7-22-2010 @ 8:13PM
He's talking about pugs.Good luck doing hard modes with a pug.
7-22-2010 @ 8:37PM
*ahem*She's* talking . . .I won't tell her if you don't. =P
7-22-2010 @ 8:55PM
saurfang hc can be pretty painful without a pally for the marks unless your well organised.
7-22-2010 @ 9:28PM
Funny, my 10 man group is 6/12 hard modes now and we've never had a paladin healer. I run as Disc with a shaman healer, and when we need a third heal we have our elemental shaman help out.Saurfang is one of the fights we got in our third attempt. And most of the raid is 10 man only gear.:D
7-23-2010 @ 1:46AM
11/12 hardmode 10 ICC, no holy pala, haven't had one since saurfang was the last available normal boss, no 25s gear to speak of, working on LK stage 3... You know what, we'll cope with our lack of holy pala :P
7-23-2010 @ 2:57AM
Lack of holy paladins, i should say "good" holy paladins has often left us without one, atm we dont have one and are working thru heroic modes 10 man strict and doing nicely.It is very easy to think oh this isnt doable without one, cos they can heal 2 people at once etc, but they are doable believe
7-23-2010 @ 3:28AM
I'll throw in for another post as the "doing Heroic-10 without a holydin" crew. I'm a disc priest, and we run with either 2x restoshaman, or restoshaman/druid (with one of them swapping to DPS on 2-healer sections - the druid's OS-healer as is, normally Balance). That said, we're not 10man strict, we have a multi-guild alliance for 25s and I won't deny the 264 gear's made things a little easier.As the disc priest, I WAS a "stubborn tank healer" for a long time (I blame the lack of holy paladins. WE don't have many in my 25 raids, either). Then we got to Saurfang and I really discovered the power of bubbles *grin*
7-23-2010 @ 8:37AM
I dont wanna burst anyones bubbles (no pun int.. or yeah it was)But sadly hardmodes without holy pally is meant to be on 25 man versions because there Its designed in the way that "you will have atleast 1-2 of each healers (ON HEROIC)".Sure, 30% helps on it now so having paladin isnt "must have" if you are geared, focused and most likely on farm at this point. But doing saurfang heroic on 25man without paladins and their bacons.. yeah, good luck. Saurfangs healer advice is pretty much: "Bring all your holy paladins". HoP boiling blood, beacon marks, use massive heals, use cooldowns.Our servers 25m Lich king heroic killers had 1 pala (25% buff) and they joked on their video at vent that "haha who said you need 2 paladins, is this world first one paladin LK 25?".So basically point in that is that... You can have 1 paladin instead of "2+" for harder hardmodes in 25 with huge buffs. Even blizzard said that they wanted to make paladins OP at heroic modes, pretty much since ulduar times you needed to have atleast one or two paladins (in 25) to succeed proper if you didnt overgear stuff.
7-23-2010 @ 11:18AM
"Stubborn Disc tank healing in 10s since 0%, Kingslayer since 5%, 9/12 Heroic since 15%, and never, ever a bubble bot"Holy pallies, I love you in 25s but I love you as Prot so much more in 10s. Thanks for being so versatile?
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