Actually check me up and you might be suprised at what I've done. But I really like how pretty much everything I said was turned into Elitest vs casual instead of actually reading what I was saying. They arnt getting 11 people and losing 10, I'm not saying all the casuals need to die and leave the game. I'm saying EVERYONE is leaving, everyone i know from casuals to hardcore to elitist pricks. They are bored, running the same instance that is a joke. And to the person that says "oh do you have every piece of gear and everything else" Sorry mate but you know beating a boss in an instance isnt cool the 12th time you do it, or the 15th time you do it when its on Hardcore, its the first time you finally get everything right and get it down. Thats something that has been missing from wrath that everyone I know misses. Steamrolling an instance on normal with 20% buff, then trying to go back and do it on hard mode is stupid. Most people dont care, even elitists dont care cause that satisfaction of getting the boss down is gone. It all then becomes about the gear. And sorry to dissapoint but really, most hardcore dont care about the gear, they care about it beign a challenge the first time, not month(s) down the road doing some hardmode. But flame away, truth will win out when Cataclysm sale numbers are released.