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7-30-2010 @ 7:25PM
This is just a list of evidence as to why Blizzard should remove the PvE/PvP designation, and have auto-flagging disabled outside indicated PvP zones. If people want to flag themselves for PvP, that's their own choice, but other players who might be playing on that server because their friends are won't be constantly ganked and camped if they don't want to be.
7-30-2010 @ 7:41PM
But that's the fun of a PvP server. There's a real sense of war and hatred at times. Being followed by someone of the opposing faction can really get the heart going. Seeing a rogue stealth nearby keeps you on your toes.And it's the same the other way around. Seeing someone owning mobs like there's no tomorrow and catching them off guard. People adapt to this environment over time and learn to put up pretty good fights. I've been in several incidents where more and more people join the battle, turning into tactical 5 v 5 battle for who gets to quest in a certain area.And one of my fondest memories of WoW was my first ever world PvP kill. I was a level 50 something priest, running along on my mount, when a rogue sapped me. She didn't get a hit on me before I was able to regain control. Frantically mashing buttons in hope of causing some damage, I hit her with my holy nova. I tossed DoTs and HoTs around until she started to retreat. I was on Skype to a friend of mine at the time (also playing WoW), screaming throughout the whole fight. My words were something along the lines of "That's right, b***h! You run away!" as my Mind Flay melted her face.Good times...
7-30-2010 @ 7:45PM
I won't argue, running into a random person and duking it out in a fair fight can be fun. Except my experience on a PvP server (couple PvP servers, actually, both factions) is that fair fights are way too few and far between. Most times, you don't have the option of going about your business. If you don't deck yourself out in heirlooms (I only take the +XP ones personally) then you don't stand a chance against someone of equal level, which is also rarely the case. Most gankers go into much lower-level zones with PvP gear to make the game not fun for people. I've seriously considered cancelling my subscription many times (mostly because of Rogues, to be honest), but instead just went back to my main and put off levelling that toon for weeks.
7-30-2010 @ 7:49PM
How about no? Just stick to the pve carebear server.Anyways, world pvp has been pretty much dead in wow for a long while now.
7-30-2010 @ 7:53PM
I would honestly and objectively respond to you, Mike, by saying that PVP servers are not in the least bit for the "my friends rolled here" scenario unless said "native" friends had briefed their "new" friends. The PVP/PVE line (which I fall on the PVE side, unless it's a BG I'm in the mood for) is a big part of the playstyle diversity that makes WoW what it is, and those of us welcoming friends into the game should be informative hosts, because, no, PVP server leveling is absolutely not for everyone, least of all the unsuspecting new player, who's here to chill and PVE it up with their friends.
7-30-2010 @ 8:14PM
@drunken111monkey WoW is a game meant to be played with friends. What's the point of moving to a PvE server where my friends don't play?@omedon666 I'm sorry, but how did you equate my not liking of the PvE/PvP server designations with being a new player? That was an opinion I formed nearly five years ago when I started playing the game and it's one that remains unchanged to this day. It is my estimation that Blizzard intended PvP servers to have the fun involved with risk and coming upon someone and having a good fight. But as I said, that's now the minority of cases and being ganked in camped is wholly not fun, unless you're the camper in which case you're getting enjoyment out of the frustration of others and should be locked away.
7-30-2010 @ 9:12PM
@Mike: He put "new" in quotes for a reason - not necessarily new to the game, but new to the experience of leveling on a PvP server. You yourself are the one who brought up the example of going to play a PvP server just because your friends do - all that omedon was saying was that those new friends better have told you that you can get ganked.Also, Blizzard IS implementing something to allow you to play a PvE server (because you don't like it when something unplanned for happens) while your adventurous buddies play a PvP server - its called RealID, and it's the closest that you're going to get without them allowing free character transfer between realms, which I've heard nothing of.When you get ganked on a PvP server while leveling (I know, I play one and love it, but hate BGs and Arena), you have two choices - sit there and take it, or grow a pair and start asking in guild chat for a high level to come help you out with the ganker (by the way, this is a great way for Blizzard to increase inter-faction social interaction on PvP servers). Eventually, gankers get bored, and will leave. If they are super persistent, you can always just rez-jump to the nearest faction base area. Or roll a rogue/druid so that you can rez-stealth superquick and be gone =]. Plus, the enjoyment that you get when you're 80, you go and gank someone, and inadvertently start a battle (they get on their main, get some guildies, you get yours, etc.), which is incredibly fun. You can't just throw your hands up in defeat, log off, and go mope in a corner.Hell, if you dislike the PvE/PvP distinction that much, go play StarCraft 2 - you can still use RealID to talk to your friends.
7-31-2010 @ 2:05AM
You don't like PvP realms but you're in them to play with your friends. It's really your problem, not the realm's problem. It's like a guy plays a sport he doesn't really like to play with his friends. He has two options: find a different sport, or suck it up!Find a different realm, or suck it up!
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