The Care and Feeding of Warriors: 1 to 60 the Cataclysm way

The Care and Feeding of Warriors is about warriors, who hurl themselves into the fray, into the very teeth of danger, armed with nothing more than the biggest weapons and armored with the absolutely heaviest armor we can find. Hey, we're not stupid, we're just crazy.
Good morning and welcome to this week's column, an overview of how the talent specialization changes affect leveling a warrior in the Cataclysm beta. Before I started this project, I made sure to keep to the following self-imposed rules.
Good morning and welcome to this week's column, an overview of how the talent specialization changes affect leveling a warrior in the Cataclysm beta. Before I started this project, I made sure to keep to the following self-imposed rules.
- No heirlooms. This is 100 percent quest rewards and random drops. (Yes, the Wyrmslayer Spaulders dropped randomly for me while questing in Felwood.) I didn't run any instances because after level 30 or so it got really hard to find an instance group at the levels I was at, but that wasn't a hard-and-fast rule.
- Try and exhaust a zone before moving on. This means doing as many quests as I can, no skipping around, and experiencing as much of the new versions of old zones as possible. Turns out you can actually do fairly well that way. There are a lot of quests out there now.
- Switch talent specialization every four or five levels. There was no real rhyme or reason to this, I just wanted to see how talent specs felt at different levels. Blood Craze is very strong now. Combined with Bloodthirst and the heal from Victory Rush, a fury warrior can easily take on groups without falling over dead or running away. The old warrior strategy of "kill them before they kill you" is actually somewhat viable now.

The goal for giving warriors (indeed, all classes) a feel for their talent specialization as soon as they take it has succeeded for the most part, even in this early stage of the beta. Playing my warrior from 10 to 14 as arms felt like arms. You're using a big two-hander (as big as they get at those levels, anyway) and mortal striking, rending, the standard arms deal. Further levels add depth to the playstyle, but they don't reinvent it. By level 64 or so (the level my worgen is currently at), you're using Rend for the Blood Frenzy debuff and to get Overpower procs while still mortal striking to set up the Lambs to the Slaughter buff.
In general, arms has started to take on that "disciplined, soldiery" feel so long touted for the specialization. It's all about getting conditions to line up. You set up overpowering strikes via shallow, bloody wounds that distract your opponent, and then drive in crushing, horrific blows that tear through his defenses and leaves him vulnerable to follow-up attacks. Imagine the arms warrior as the guy thinking five steps ahead in every confrontation.
Meanwhile, fury has become a much stronger contender for a leveling spec, thanks to having Bloodthirst and the dual wielding talents to start, along with a much stronger Blood Craze. As of last night, my fury spec used this build, which I think combines reasonable offensive power with decent survivability at level 64.
Finally, I find protection still somewhat painful to level in at very low levels (although Shield Slam helps when you're sub-20). It picks up nicely once you're over the middle 20s and you have a decent assortment of talents. I was using this spec at 29, skipping Hold the Line (good as it is) to get down for more rage and to play with Blood and Thunder, which I do find useful for soloing as well as its obvious multi-mob tanking utility. Prot felt the most powerful as a leveling spec once you hit the 40-and-up range, with a decent assortment of learned abilities to supplement your talent choices.
The decision to radically retune talents by pruning them back in this way (so that you'll be level 69 before getting your 31-point talent and beginning to look outside of your talent tree of choice) makes those learned abilities more important than ever. While I'm not entirely pleased with all aspects of this, it does mean you really treasure those abilities as they come in.
Finally, itemization for quest rewards (especially for levels 20 to 40, although the Blasted Lands had some nice 50 to 60 rewards as well) is much, much improved. Not only does green gear look better and more unified now, it tends to have solid if unremarkable stats (under 40, mail is much better for warriors, as an example) and there are more competitive quest rewards that are solid blues nearly equivalent to what you could get running dungeons. It's obvious that a great deal of thought, time and polish has gone into the questing experience.

Obviously not everything is puppies and sunshine, even for our puppy above, seen in the sunshine.
First off, while having signature abilities available from level 10 on for each spec does give them a solid rooting in the feel of each talent spec, the delay 'til you reach the top of your tree (level 69, currently) does create some strange artifacts. For starters, every fury warrior spends 68 levels playing exactly like a Single-Minded Fury warrior. Then at level 69, you can either push a button that says, "Yeah, this is what I want to play like," or another button that says, "No thanks, I want two big weapons instead." It is a long time to wait to get that capstone ability. (Compare this to live, where one can get a 51-point talent by level 60 and stride forth into Outland using Shockwave, Bladestorm or Titan's Grip to one's heart's content.)
It felt very weird taking the one Hellfire 5-man I managed to get with three death knights and a ret paladin healer without that Shockwave. I'd seriously consider moving the 31-point talents down to 27- or even 25-pointers so that you could hope to get them around evel 60. Heck, a 27-point talent as capstone would mean getting said talent at level 61, pretty close to the 51-pointers in live.
Also, with abilities gained the way they are, some levels, you don't get anything: no talent point, no ability, nothing at all. You ding and go about your way. It's unsatisfying. I understand and even applaud the new system in which you just train an ability once and don't have to, say, go out to Fray Island to get the Berserker Stance quest (although I did miss it), but a level with no talent and no ability is just a sad level. If it means adding a few extraneous talent points and bumping the final tally of talent points we get at 85 a couple of points upward, I'd support that.
I could complain about damage output, but frankly, this is hardly a numbers pass at this point in time. Damage seems low, but we'll worry about that later. The abilities seem more or less functional, although rage generation is still a concern. In fact, for both my arms and fury specs, I'm finding Battle Shout and Bloodrage are never off of cooldown; I just need the rage far, far too much in any questing situation. I hope it will get another pass soon.
Next week, I'll have more detail on tanking the two new instances, as I've just gotten my draenei to the beta level cap and started running them.
Oh, and just because it fits the subheading theme:
The ugly

Filed under: Warrior, Analysis / Opinion, (Warrior) The Care and Feeding of Warriors, Cataclysm






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Chris S Jul 30th 2010 6:13PM
The sword isn't that bad, really. Though the point is kind of... off.
Matthew Jul 30th 2010 6:13PM
I'm going to roll a goblin and a worgen, and one will be a warrior one a rogue.
Any suggestions as to which to do?
(I was thinking goblin for warrior, for the discount on repair bills)
Other than that, open to suggestions.
Orion Jul 30th 2010 6:51PM
I'd go with Goblin Rogue, Pickpocket and Stealth seem so Goblin-y.
And Warrior for Worgen, Fury specifically feels so Feral Werewolf.
Chubz Jul 30th 2010 7:02PM
I'm actually doing the exact same thing, but I'm def making my goblin the warrior. Always loved warrior Gnomes and now the Horde has their own small (but cooler) race XD
Besides, the worgen stealth animation is pretty BA
Tom Jul 30th 2010 8:04PM
It'd be a tough choice for me.
I'm not a fan of plate-wearing Worgen due to their exposed feet. It works well enough for the hooved races, but not so much for Worgen and Trolls.
On the other hand, I'm also not a fan of tiny tanks...
thebitterfig Jul 31st 2010 4:40PM
goblin warrior so you can get some sort of techno-shield and look like a zeppelin guard, plus as mr. rossi has pointed out as the ultimate refutation of all things goblin (don't get me wrong, i'm way more excited for goblins), but ninja warewolf. 'nuff said.
Stefan Jul 30th 2010 6:19PM
Good read, just one thing.
You described pretty nicely how arms finally has gotten the solidery feel to it when leveling.
Just wonder, did you try Fury anything? If yes, does fury have the "bloodthirsty berserkery" feeling to it as you described arms?
Matthew Rossi Jul 30th 2010 7:00PM
Fury still kind of feels 'rogue in plate' more than 'berserk lunatic' due to using 1h weapons, but the self healing boosts do give it a degree of kill resistance I like. The new talents that debuted yesterday are being played with as we speak.
Eternauta Jul 30th 2010 8:58PM
Combat Rogue in plate = Berserker IMHO.
Bass Jul 30th 2010 6:22PM
This actually sound quite cool, though I probably won't be levelling a seconds warrior through cataclysm.
My question is though (unrelated to the leveling process), I'm one of the (few?) warriors who actually dislikes titan's grip, and as I'm not in the beta (grrrrr......), I would like to know whether Single-minded fury is able to compensate for the difference in one handed and Two handed weapons?
Bas.
MrJackSauce Jul 30th 2010 6:22PM
I'm not sure how much I would enjoy Outland without a shockwave (yeah I've leveled 2 warriors to 80 and I plan on at least one more in Cataclysm) to tank with. Well I would enjoy it, but I LIKE being able to look forward to a specific class ability at the same time as I go to literally a whole new world. Then again, who knows where the ability will be placed by 4.0, OR MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE!!!.... EVEN A DIFFERENT SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE US GO: oooooooooooOOOOOhh!
jscott87 Jul 30th 2010 6:26PM
Matt Rossi is my favorite writer on this blog :)
bruce Jul 30th 2010 6:57PM
Excellent article! Hope to see something similar for leveling to 85. Perhaps something detailed for each spec?
Trevin Ward Jul 30th 2010 6:41PM
What kind of /played did you have level 60? I'm curious how much faster leveling is/isn't with the new zone designs.
Matthew Rossi Jul 30th 2010 7:01PM
It took about a week of playing 3 or so hours a night. Weekends, well, that varies, 5 hours at the most though. I think they're still playing with XP totals though, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. It does feel faster.
Vogie Jul 30th 2010 6:47PM
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to waiting 2 levels per talent point.
I kinda want them to make more situational, extraneous, maybe even environment-specific abilities even if they're just adding more fun to the leveling process. Either long cooldown spells you can't use in pvp, or situational spells that won't help with pve, or both.
More buttons = better
epuration Jul 30th 2010 6:51PM
"I'd seriously consider moving the 31-point talents down to 27- or even 25-pointers so that you could hope to get them around evel 60. " evel?
Chubz Jul 30th 2010 7:09PM
http://forum.onemanga.com/image.php?groupid=1086&dateline=1262327675
Tom Jul 30th 2010 7:58PM
To be fair, that's either a spelling error or a typographical error that epuration's correcting; he's not making a grammatical correction. :P
MusedMoose Jul 30th 2010 7:05PM
Grr. Grr, Mr. Rossi.
I'd been settled on my worgen characters for a while, and now, you've forced me to change my mind, what with the pictures of a kickass male worgen warrior - I was going to play a female one, and make a male worgen warlock. I now have to come up with new names, and delete the characters I've had place-holding the names since not long after Cataclysm's announcement.
Grr.
^_^