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8-01-2010 @ 2:19PM
The wall has been constructed on my server in the past week or two. Every. Single. Glyph. is posted at 3g50s. Ink of the Sea is usually 3-5g, and not one herb sells for less than 20g/stack. I want to know where the wallbuilder is getting their mats, because s/he is posting 5-10 of each, Every Day. I've logged in at all kinds of idiotic hours, looking for supplies or his/her downtime to slip some in, and s/he is Always Logged In. 8am, noon, 5.43pm, THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, doesn't matter.I suspect botting. Or a devil sent to annoy the hell out of me by a bemused god.
8-01-2010 @ 2:21PM
sounds like s/he is doing his/her job well then. I'm just glad something like this hasn't happened yet on my server, the economy is crap as it is already
8-01-2010 @ 2:25PM
Try buying them all, just to lower their stock, and when they crack post them all.
8-01-2010 @ 3:36PM
Buy out a bunch of them. When cata hits every single glyph is going to be selling, and people are going to stop farming. Herbs will be very scarce, while glyphs (even bad glyphs) will sell like crazy.
8-01-2010 @ 3:37PM
agreed with no name. a similar thing happened to me on my server and i had about 20000 gold left so i bought ALL of the underpriced glyphs and sold them at the "fallback" wall level ( or just above his old prices [which was 30g]) I ended up making around 6 times the amount i had before. (WOOT 120000 GOLD!)he was awake at 3AM?????!!?!?!?!?!!?
8-01-2010 @ 3:43PM
Sounds like a good way to blow a ton of money...
8-01-2010 @ 6:48PM
You guys are writing off the possibility that this is in fact a chinese gold-selling operation that has multiple people constantly farming herbs, other people frequently milling and crafting, and a third TEAM of people actually camping the auction house on a single toon.This may seem far-fetched, but it is actually happening on many servers and is self sustaining by being the only option for glyphs. When the seller's investment is time from other people and that is all, they stand to make 50,000+ gold per week.We can't do that because we have to factor in our time consumption, but imagine if you had someone that you could pay a few dollars a week to spend all their waking time farming you herbs and milling ink for you. You would be able to dominate the market too.This is a frequent occurence on high-pop servers.
8-01-2010 @ 8:36PM
Botting is in no way necessary to achieve this, just a few hours every couple of days.
8-02-2010 @ 10:28AM
Heilig is right and it is happening on my server. I have befriended a couple of the Chinese farmers (mostly to practice my Chinese) and though they wouldn't talk to me at first for fear I was a GM, they eventually warmed up to me and let me in on the whole process. AH botting is the new thrust of Gold Selling companies, though they use it to augment their traditional botting techniques. They own the gem, glyph, and enchant scrolls market with 100% uptime, and with their goods representing over 65% of those categories' postings. The real hard thing is they understand all the "goblin" tactics quite well and know how to respond. They are mostly impervious to the Wall, as their costs are far lower than a non-farmer and so they can remain profitable far below our breaking point. The only wall that can beat them is the irrationally low, profit losing wall, but I guarantee they have more capital ready to win a price war and they will just wait for the profit-loser to lose.
8-02-2010 @ 2:59PM
This article missed a key strategy, which is to know how to avoid provoking other sellers into cracking, and building a wall at all.My server has a tenuous relationship between the most active of sellers. Most seem to know when to back down, and just log off. The most experienced glyph sellers are filthy rich already. If you're in the mood to camp the AH, do it for one or two days in a row maximum. But then, relist with longer gaps in between each cycle. If you let your competitors make a bit of profit, everyone ends up with some tidy profits, and the chance for a wall is less. Note that the wall is most often built from SPITE. Don't be so greedy that others feel you are being a jerk. The wall is less likely to appear, and everyone will sell their glyphs at higher prices for a large portion of the popular glyphs.Even though you think you should be able to buy a 25000g Blood Queen's Crimson Choker at the drop of a hat-- you don't. Try to recall that being worth over 25000g on a server puts you ahead of the VAST majority of players. Give competitors a day in the sun every week, and everyone gets rich.
8-02-2010 @ 6:04PM
I had this happen on my server, recently, except that the seller posted about 20 of every glyph at 1 gold or less. Never seen anything like this before. In one day he obliterated the glyph market. I'm still not sure what this guy's goal was, or where/how he got the mats to make and sell all those glyphs at such a loss.Up until this point there were 3 of us that were regular sellers and we battled to be just slightly less than the others, but we never went below a certain point. Without talking to each other we just knew once it hit a low point that we didn't want to go under we would let the glyphs sell out then start over again at a much higher pricepoint. This slow grind down in price followed by a high spike would be repeated over and over again. Before this market crash if a new or casual seller would vastly undercut us, one of us would just buy them out.The glyph market is so messed up now I don't even bother with it anymore. Luckily I have maxed out every profession so I have other markets that I can turn to for now.
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