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8-08-2010 @ 8:07AM
I'd probably say a warrior, not much thought process for a first timer.
8-08-2010 @ 8:10AM
Bandaging every other fight...? Meh
8-08-2010 @ 9:46AM
Warrior was my first class, on that assumption. But having to be careful about the abilities and numbers of mobs you pull made it tactically quite tricky. And then my first group, where people expected me to do something called "tanking".
8-08-2010 @ 10:35AM
Welcome to "I haven't played a warrior" theatre.No self heal. No combat escape. No combat control at all for the first 50 or so levels. Yeah, warriors are totally new player friendly, if you want to teach them that the game is about dying like a chicken because an extra kobold decided to say hello.
8-08-2010 @ 11:05AM
Agree with Rossi. My first ever was a warrior. Never again- had no clue how to tank, and no clue about gear. Leveling was more of a pain than leveling the priest that I started after many, many failed Uldman runs. That priest is still my main after 5 years.
8-08-2010 @ 11:11AM
I'm levelling a warrior now, I wouldn't say they're very beginner friendly :PEven at the start you're relying on a on-next-hit strike, which can be quite slow or dodgy sometimes.As I've levelled, I've also noticed they have way more buttons than I ever thought. There's lots of abilities that work across multiple stances so you have to have those out and ready or many situational abilities in stances, it's nuts.Really enjoying it though, I love stance dancing, too bad I've heard that gets phased out later on.
8-08-2010 @ 11:22AM
Warrior is the most dynamic and hard to play class in WoW.All sorts of abilities, very short cooldowns, each having a unique effect. You have to master what each does - and there's no rotation, so you just have to figure out then and there on the fly which to use.Priority list play is a lot tougher than rotation based play. And warriors are all abouth the priority list with the shortest time between choices of any class.Further, if you end up tanking - you have to learn how to manage mob positioning, fighting against hostile DPSers, pacing, threat maximizing, mitigation, and so on.Warrior really is the only choice left in WoW for the players that want a challenge in their game.
8-08-2010 @ 11:30AM
I'm with Rossi (my first character was a Warrior and my main still is that same Warrior) - you fight. You eat. You die. You call in favors from high levels. You accidentally over-aggro. You die. You fight elites. You die. You die. You die. You die.
8-08-2010 @ 11:38AM
As a wife who was brought into WoW by her hubby, and who really only played console games previous to that, for the love of god not a warrior!!!I very nearly quit the game, logging off night after night sobbing in frustration because I couldn't freaking stay alive for more than 15 minutes at a time in STV. That warrior has been level 41 since late Vanilla, and she will STAY level 41 forever. I'd suggest either a hybrid with the capacity for easy self-healing OR a pure DPS with an effective combat escape. Or a NElf of any class, purely for Shadowmeld. Being able to run a little ways and drop out of sight when you've overpulled as a new player is not an insignificant advantage.
8-08-2010 @ 1:35PM
I find this funny...I agree...but it's still funny.Horde Warrior was my 1st toon. Ally Warrior was my 2nd toon as well. Hunter was my 3rd and I couldn't believe how much easier a hunter is/was than a warrior.Leveling my 4th alt now...A paladin. Leveling as prot. Gotta be the easiest leveling I've done yet. I have now fear of how many mobs I aggro and to top it off I can solo elites a few levels higher than myself. Solo'd almost every group quest in Nagrand.Tried a warlock...didn't like the play style. Tried a priest...way too boring. Tried a druid...I like seeing my gear too much. Come cataclysm I'll be leveling a Goblin Shaman and a Worgen something. I don't have an Ally healer so I'll have to tough out druid or priest. What I wouldn't give for Worgen paladin.
8-09-2010 @ 12:57PM
Matthew, srsly? I leveled my first Warrior as Arms way back when and spent an enormous amount of time seeing the game in black and white. Granted. And my second Warrior mostly Fury during the BC-era. Same. Third as Prot about 3 months post-Wrath. OMG. Easysauce. They just won't die now-a-days.No self heal? Don't need it, use a shield. (Real Warriors live on Stringy Wolf Meat.)No combat escape? You mean for the bad guys, right?No combat control? The concept of buying a gun and pulling mobs to you isn't terribly difficult, really. If anything, a Warrior is ONLY about controlling the combat environment. (Except for those evil @#$%@# Murlocs. Warriors? Avoid murlocs. They suck. 'Cept those cute little baby ones in Borean Tundrea.)Simple? Most early abilities fall in to two categories: Hit the bad guy with your pointy stick and don't get hit by the bad guy's pointy whatever.I wish MORE new players would start with a Warrior, even if they end up playing and enjoying something else eventually. A player that understands the concepts of aggro, threat, positioning, tactical and situational awareness, when and where to use cc, how to control damage (in and out), etc.?!? Oh my, that would lovely.I wouldn't recommend it for players like the one described in the article! Definitely a paladin or a mage. But unless you're gonna tank, playing a Warrior is WAY easier these days AND can teach certain types of players early in their WoW experience the core mechanics of the game like no other class.
8-08-2010 @ 12:17PM
Am I the only one that remembers the story of the first person to reach 80 without dying was on a warrior??
8-08-2010 @ 12:26PM
@willowblueI am partial to your suggestion of a hybrid. My very first toon, which also happened to end up being my first max level toon (70 in TBC) was my Nelf druid. I've always been an elf fan, from D&D days and reading dragonlance novels. So a Nelf was a perfect choice from the start for me. I remember reading the description of a druid and just loving the sounds of using magic and/or turning into a bear/cat and fighting. It also was nice because I could heal myself when I goofed (which I still do alot on any toon). I think that is what makes them an easy first choice. You can pull to much and possibly survive because you can heal yourself through it. The one drawback to a hybrid for a fresh player may be speccing. I know it can be rough regardless for anyone the first go around, but I kinda remember having pts spread between all 3 trees on my druid through level 40ish when my then wife (who was new as well, but had fallen in with a crowd who had lvl 70s and had been playing in Vanilla) informed me I was supposed to have a main tree, and get my talents down to the bottom point. GAH! I had been picking talents that seemed to work and make sense to me, and the way I had been playing. Now I was doing it wrong?!? Fun times though. Sadly, my first main is stuck at lvl 72, as I've had little desire to level the druid to 80.
8-08-2010 @ 12:28PM
Yeah, honestly I wouldn't suggest warrior to start with for most people, but honestly it's a mentality thing. I started with a warrior (And have 3 80s who are) and I enjoyed leveling with them, even though it was the middle of BC when I finally reached 70. I so far haven't been able to really stand another class that much except for the DK and hunter due to mana(or rogues, who use stealth and are too squishy) due to not liking how fast most types run out of mana, and how squishy they can be anyways. So if someone's willing to start with a challenge, but with a shorter waiting time between fights(bandages are faster than water, and rage is kind of infinite), and last reasonably long in combat, the warrior may be a good class to start with.
8-08-2010 @ 12:34PM
My first toon was a warrior and that guy is still my main. I love the guy. just keep your first aid leveled as much as you can and youre good. Had a Night Elf tho and so I had shadowmeld available if i accidentally pulled too many mobs. run away out of the area, shadowmeld to loose aggro, and bandage. then go back and use your bow to pull them one at a time like you shouldve done in the first place. @80 fury warrior is easysauce. I can literally kill level 80 mobs in icecrown before they can even hit me once. AND im at the top of the DPS charts.
8-08-2010 @ 12:54PM
@arcady0I agree with you that priority lists are harder than set rotations, but if you think that warriors have the most complex priority system, then you've obviously never played an enhancement shammy.
8-08-2010 @ 2:14PM
@arcady0I don't think you've played a feral druid before...
8-08-2010 @ 2:33PM
You have to admit that it is a little ironic for the warrior columnist to blast the choice of warrior. Yes, I know he was talking about as a first toon/leveling and no I haven't gotten a warrior past 23 yet myself for many of the reasons he mentions.
8-08-2010 @ 4:26PM
@Eli: My first 70 was a Druid - that was my raiding toon for half of BC before I decided to try a paladin (which I dropped like a rock when 3.0 hit and made paladin rotations too simple & boring). She's now dual spec feral/resto. Spend most of the time on that toon tanking (one of my 5 80 tanks and in her resto spec, 2 80 healers). Cat form -which I've used now and then- is basically rogue simplified. Since I didn't mention Druids in the post you replied to though - I'm not sure why you made a druid comment at me.@jscott87: Started my guild on my enhancement shaman back in April of 07. The toon didn't make it to 80, sure, and is presently 72 - but its the most played non-80 I have. All you do is smack a shock, and then run through the talent specific abilities (lavalash, stormstrike, etc), and then a shock again. Enhance is trivially easy. It is a priority list and not a rotation - but its the simplest priority list out there as the choices don't much differ in their impact. Getting one wrong won't tend to cause anything but a slightly longer fight.
8-08-2010 @ 8:47PM
Warrior might not be the most "friendly" class for a newbie but I would say it's the best, my first toon was a prot warrior, I levelled as prot cause nobody told me I shouldn't, and although I have only been playing for about a year and a half now, I am rated as one of the top 20 prot warriors on my server currently, it is not an easy class to play, but out of the other classes I have levelled (shammy, lock, dk, drood, rogue), it is by far and above the one you want newbies to start with, you just don't learn any bad habits levelling a prot warrior, if you do you just end up dying. Very informative for your first time, survivability only topped by a prot pally, you really need to think about what abilities you use in and out of group & rage management isn't as annoying as a locks dots, or a rogue interface, but it's enough to make you pay attention. Just overall I feel it's the perfect balance of survivability, challenge and sink or swim learning.
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