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8-09-2010 @ 6:45PM
"Really...? Zul'jin and Grommosh Hellscream?Zul'jin pulled a Kael'theas on the trolls, and was never really a true leader allied with the current Horde."Neither was Thermaplugg, Blackhand, Thaurissan, etc. That doesn't change the fact that they were great leaders within their people. Just because the side we play on in the game is different from theirs doesn't make them less of a great and important person in their lore. Hell, man, the troll charge emote is "FOR ZUL'JIN!" Before he went batshit nuts (like Rommath is doing right now) he was simply an iconic troll leader that they ALL looked up to."As for Grommosh, the most he did was drink from the fountain of demon blood. He was doing what Thrall told him, night elves attacked, he killed them, Cenarius attacked, and in order to protect his clan and succeed in what he was ordered to do, he drank from the fel-blood tainted fountain. After killing Cenarius, Mannoroth took control of them, someting Grom DID NOT want. Any true betrayal occurred when he was not in control of himself. Thrall knew this, which is why he and jaina worked to save him. Hell, if he had truly betrayed the Horde, he would of not slain Mannoroth."I may be wrong here since it's been a while since I played the campaign, but as I recall, Grom knew what was going to happen and did it anyway. He chose to drink the blood so his CLAN wouldn't be destroyed, not so the entire horde wouldn't. Granted, he was on Thrall's mission, but he didn't exactly have battle plans. he was given a strategic goal and told "Go get it done" and the way he chose to do it was nearly suicidal for the entire Horde. He is considered a great hero still because he managed to shake off the effects at the very end and kill Mannoroth, but that redemption doesn't change the facts of his prior actions, or its motivation being a very selfish one, regardless of what he may have thought. As in many cases, the end doesn't justify the means. The rabid demon-caused bloodthirst of the Warsong clan helped to keep Horde and Alliance at a distance from each other to this day.All of this is beside the point though. The man was complaining that OMG A WHOLE TWO BLOOD ELVES were portrayed as betrayers. Boo hoo. Welcome to high fantasy. Backstabbing and betrayal is the most dramatic thing you can offer in a game like this. They didn't pick the dude because he's a blood elf. It isn't racial profiling. They picked him because the events that have shaped his character would very much lead to this sort of thing.Oh BTW, did we mention that he's being corrupted by one of the things that HELPED CORRUPT THE FREAKING KEEPERS OF ULDUAR? It's not like he just sat there and one day said "I think I'm gonna join the Twilight Council." He happened to be in a position useful to C'thun and his ego was simply exploited by an OLD GOD.
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