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8-11-2010 @ 3:46AM
icepyro said...
I must be tired because the comments are hilarious.
Several people complain about the term "the far east" as if the world has changed how it is mapped or something. I mean, there is this thing called longitude. The world is divided into east and west by the Prime Meridian. If you look on the eastern side and far to the east of the Prime Meridian, then you find China if you look in the northern half. Coincidence? I think not. Granted, you do have to kind of take the view that the Pacific ocean is ridiculously big and discount a small amount when looking for land to the far and middle east, but whatever.
I also find irony @Illdoit for having an icon/avatar whatever of Darth Vader's head and complaining of the lack of Personal Liberties.
Then I'm not sure where to find any history stating China isn't communist, though they are socialist and have many communist characteristics even if they don't call themselves communist. You know, single party socialist republic. Unless we are talking about the Republic of China that rules over Taiwan, but that's different.
And just because the USSR collapsed economically does not mean it was downhill from the start. If it was, I doubt they would have influenced anyone else to doing it.
Bah, now I'm losing the funny to tired and political, so I'm going to bed.
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8-11-2010 @ 4:33AM
Sorcha said...
I think that what people are arguing is that China doesn't practice a political ideology which is pure enough to be communism properly so called.
8-11-2010 @ 5:09AM
Killik said...
If somebody names their political ideology as 'communism', it seems churlish to start picking holes in that. "Oh, it's not what I'd call communism. For one thing, you're not even Russians."
8-11-2010 @ 5:37AM
Sorcha said...
It's nothing to do with arbitrary personal definitions based on Stalinism, Maoism or Trotskyism, but with proper labelling. Taking ideological purity as the baseline, a communist society properly so-called has certain features:
-a lack of state machinery, meaning no state interference or control;
-no class system;
-communal ownership of goods and the means of their production;
-communal ownership of property;
-equal weight given to each individual in the decision-making process;
-equality of opportunity
-rules which enforce the maxim that each gives according to their ability and takes according to their need.
Doesn't look much like China, does it? It's not surprising; there isn't much explanation given by Marx as to how all this is supposed to work economically and how you're meant to ensure a flat society.
It's a bit like grammar pedantry, I'll give you that, but I believe it's what the people who are saying China =/= communist are saying. (Note this is not my argument, just trying to shed some light on it. I'm going to stop typing now.)
8-11-2010 @ 7:03AM
Al said...
@Killik, the North Koreans call themselves a Democratic Republic but that doesn't make it so.