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9-06-2010 @ 12:57AM
Some of the replies to this thread are crazy.You SHOULD be a melee Paladin already.If you haven't been using Seal of Wisdom (soon to be Seal of Insight) to melee on a boss/mobs to get mana back you shouldn't be playing a Paladin. It's pretty much required on a lot of hard mode fights. It gives you back a TON of mana with all our haste (on end game gear,) our melee attacks are just over 1 second. Procs like mad. Learn to do it now and you wont have many problems with mana come Cataclysm. Seriously.And those of you worrying about AoE fights where we shouldn't be in close proximity to bosses need not worry considering our huge boost in Health coming with Cataclysm. There was just a blue thread (http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26560850176/my-holy-paladin-feedback/ - last paragraph) stating that healers shouldn't have to worry about topping off players straight away, or even worry about them getting 2 shot by AoE. Plus, on fights I can't melee the boss, there's usually something there I can hit a few times every now and then.Quit being worry warts, and get excited about all the other cool changes we're getting.
9-06-2010 @ 1:49AM
It's so obvious we should melee'ing, with our short cast times and extensive array of instant heals and HoTs. Oh wait.
9-06-2010 @ 2:37AM
Yes it's obvious. They gave us a spell that gives us a ton of mana back from meleeing. How hard is that to grasp? Have you even tried to do it?I dunno about you but my Flash of Light is sub 1 second in a raid, and my Holy Light is 1.2-1.4 seconds, I'd say those are very short cast times. You just stand next to the boss with auto attack on, while casting heals. In between heals you'll melee.http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/af7tdlai2dy3h6oq/details/3/?s=1313&e=1549#tab-aurasLook under "Power Gains." 55,108 mana back in 3 minutes and 55 seconds from Seal of Wisdom. Almost 4 TIMES as much as Replenishment. Oh look, I did 7.3k eHPS too, more than a super geared Shaman and Disc Priest, all while *gasp* meleeing between heals on HARDMODE Festergut! BLASPHEMY right?!Sounds pretty awesome to me! You can look at all the boss fights on all my parses. Pretty sure Seal of Wisdom will be #1 on all my Power Gains except for a select few fights.It makes a HUGE difference. And you can do it too!
9-06-2010 @ 4:33AM
How about an actual boss fight, not a DPS race?
9-06-2010 @ 6:14AM
I told you that you could check all my other parses on World of Logs. But since you're to lazy I'll help you out:Lich King: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/af7tdlai2dy3h6oq/details/3/?s=9485&e=11378#tab-aurasPutricide: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/af7tdlai2dy3h6oq/details/3/?s=2476&e=2763#tab-aurasDeathwhisper H: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/84b3b9405y8nfsdw/details/5/?s=5342&e=5696#tab-aurasEveryone of those I'm top Healing/eHPS, with Seal of Wisdom as my top mana gainer. Those fights are not gimmicks for Paladins either, requiring lots of movement etc. There are others too like Morrowgar, Sindragosa, Rotface that are the exact same thing if you want to look at those as well.You can keep denying it all you want, but if you're not using Seal of Wisdom as a Paladin you're not playing your class to the fullest extent possible. You just lose out on too much mana return.Now, let me say again: it's not possible on EVERY fight, there are some fights it's not possible to use Seal of Wisdom on, but they're few and far between.Blood Coucil/Queen, and Saurfang are the only ones in ICC10/25 it's not possible to do on, at least not with out putting yourself or other people at risk of dying. And Dreamwalker for obvious reasons.
9-06-2010 @ 12:15PM
Sure, they've raised health considerably, but they're raising damage, too--someone pointed out elsewhere seeing 15k hits as rather common. So in the end there's not much difference.I'm not a healer, but I could see why they'd complain about not only having to heal all those massive hits, but doing it with a rapidly-dwindling mana pool.
9-06-2010 @ 3:04PM
You want me to trawl through logs to prove your point for you, and I'm the lazy one. Of course.
9-07-2010 @ 12:10AM
SamLowry: 15k hits are nothing when tanks are going to have 100k+ health, and DPS/Healers are going to have 70-80k HP. Have you seen the Stamina they've put on all the gear at end game? It's insane. Cloth Helm at level 83: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/56133/crown-of-enfeebled-bodies/We'll be fine. ^_^Al: Yes you're lazy. You should spend time learning how to play your class properly before spouting off how someone else is wrong when they clearly aren't. Then you say "Show me an actual boss fight, not a DPS race." when you could have looked in a couple seconds using the link I gave you in the previous post. But you know.. keep on trolling!Why would they give us an ability to melee for mana if it wasn't meant to be used?
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