Better yet, if you're a paladin and you plan on doing any raiding at all, please, get the addon, PallyPower. It makes it so much easier to buff the raid if all the paladins have this. Otherwise, you spend like 15 min of people saying, "No, I'm not ready, rogues have wisdom instead of might," or "Kings, I need kings.... kings... KINGS!"

Honestly, just get it. Please. For the sake of every other paladin's sanity, just get the dang addon.

And we know you didn't originally roll a pally to become a buff expert. Nor did I originally roll a hunter to become a trapping expert or a pet micromanagement expert; it's just part of the job. If we no longer enjoy our chosen class as it evolves before us, we don't get to cherry-pick what parts we feel like doing, we roll something else.

They need to learn that add-ons are for sissies and there ARE other buffs than Kings :)

If you're not in a heroic, don't bother whining for buffs. Seriously.

I cannot stand the DPS who incessently badger "might. might please. might. might". The mob is your level, it says it's elite... but it's not. It's basically 5v3 against morons. You don't need buffs. you need to dps.

Sure, make sure the tank has fort, the healer has Wisdom and/or Divine spirit, and the ret doesn't have RiFur on. But that's the extent.

I say this because, if you get in a random with one of my army of alts and start badgering, you get ignored. Stop wasting keystrokes.

The only commands should go from healer to tank in a non-heroic pug. If you're DPS, be smart or get kicked. There's 56 others begging for your slot.

not to ask my bear for thorns

not to open up before a LoS pull reaches me

that if the tank blows cooldowns and BR's the healer you shouldn't have a go about casting tanks

Words of wisdom from ShadowPriest and I would like to expand on it.

If your a mage, please put out a table or offer up your lovely food. (Paladin Healer)
If your with a mage, JUST CLICK THE DAM PORTAL ALREADY! (Or no food from my mage)

and in closing, if your checking peoples gear score, please use http://www.pugchecker.com/ before you ask them if they have a DPS spec because you think they can not tank H-HoR even though that specific toon has done it 30+ (not guessing!) other times. :)

In closing; quest givers, they will give you gold... Go ask them.

My answer to this is very simple.

THEM: "Kings, kings! wtb kings!! kings!!"

ME: "I am prot, you get sanctuary, suck it up."

Kings is not the ONLY buff, and it is not always the best buff. Sanctuary is very nice in PVP. Most people crying for Kings don't even know Sanctuary exists, even though it is a better buff for most melee DPS classes than Kings is. Sigh.

Remember the first rule of Warcraft:

"Everyone knows how to play your class better than you"

I quit putting up tables in 5 mans because, consistently, I'd stand there at the instance portal like a jackass with my skinny elf arms in the air while everyone else was GOGOGO-ing and halfway done with the first trash pull. I only do it when asked now.

@Ezek: sanctuary only gives strength, not agility.

i cannot think of one melee dps that would benefit more from sanctuary than kings.

@cidninja

You can't think of one? I can.

Ret Pallies. And they don't have access to sanctuary.

Sanctuary has a heal benefit as well, so while you many not get 10% agility increase (as well as 10% spirit and intellect which is often pointless for Melee) you are still getting a buff! Both 10% agility and 3% heals are nice buffs to have, and not worth splitting hairs over.

As a pally I can use a Greater Blessing, hitting everyone at once and lasting 30 mins, OR I can individually buff EACH class with whatever their little heart desires and take 20 minutes alt tabbing.

So they are probably getting sanctuary.

I play many classes. I know that certain classes want certain buffs over other ones. I also don't care. I am giving out a buff, they can be gracious at recieving a helpful buff, or they can complain that it is not helpful enough. I only have this problem with melee dps. I have never had a healer scream at me that they want wisdom over kings. Occasionally I get a polite whisper, and then I happily oblige.

I am not going to individually buff 20 raid members in a BG. I am not going to give everyone a 30 min kings buff that benefits some, not all, of the players, and then turn around and give myself the wimpy 10 minutes sanctuary individual buff.

Sorry if that doesn't float your boat, but I won't buy into the "DPS mentality" where I must make sure you have an agility buff becuase that is your favorite stat.

It's funny that you complain about a 10% strength buff and forget that it is also a 10% stamina buff, stamina being something EVERYONE can use. But I always hear it from melee dps, agility agility agility.

*you're or you are

ezek- sanctuary gives a very small 3% less damage taken, no healing buff. it also gives you mana back when you avoid an attack, which is useless for non tanks. kings gives agility, which gives ap to hunters, rogues, druids and shamans, and some crit, some armor, some dodge. in all kings is (99% of the time) better than sanc. even the tiny 3% less damage is overwritten if you have a disc priest. so yah, every melee dps in the game benefits more from kings, and every caster.

About the paladin buffs....priests that don't suck at talent specs get more mp5 (Yes, while casting) from Kings than Wisdom. I'm pretty sure that shaman have this talent too.