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9-10-2010 @ 1:30PM
Rather than documenting... why not just click on the IGNORE feature? or move to another server? Or better yet.... stop playing for awhile?There is no need to document the harrassment, as it 'encourages' the victim to remain a victim for the simple fact of getting documentation and recorded events.Truth be told, if you're being harrassed online, then stop getting online!
9-10-2010 @ 1:25PM
But someone who enjoys going online shouldn't be 'forced' to stop by internet harassment. That is giving up something you find enjoyable because of the harasser, and that's wrong. It's much better, imo to document it, and shut them down completely so you can enjoy your internet time again.
Addition: And also, that can't be your policy everywhere. Like, if you're getting harassed at work/school is your solution to stop going to work/school? If you're getting harassed by a neighbour whenever you go outside, is your solution to stop leaving the house? If you're getting harassed at home, is your solution to live on the street?I wouldn't think so... internet harassment should be considered the same.
@dmatulewic You are completely, utterly wrong.
So you're supposed to let the idiots win? If you're at school and getting a hard time from a bully (and that's exactly what this is), are you supposed to stay home?The advice in the article doesn't encourage the victim to remain a victim; it's empowering them to take control of the situation and put a stop to it.
9-10-2010 @ 1:34PM
And if there's a guy following you to the supermarket and work and everywhere else, stop going outside! No need to document and inform the authorities to stop the stalker, that just makes you a victim!This has been brought to you by the Sarcasm Society. We now return you to your regularly scheduled commenting.
9-10-2010 @ 1:36PM
As someone who has been on the receiving end of in game harassment, I find your comment appalling. If I chose to ignore someone who is bothering me, or better yet, crossing the line and downright harassing/threatening me, it is not very difficult for that person to create a new character and get around my choice to ignore them. I should not be forced to switch servers or quit doing something that I enjoy due to someone else having the desire to be a jerk or perv. "if you're being harassed online, then stop getting online!"-why not those who harass people or threaten people? Why should the person being targeted be punished?
9-10-2010 @ 1:38PM
Hey, if you keep getting harassed going to the grocery store, then stop going there! Even better, if you're getting harassed wherever you go, then just don't leave the house! That'll be great! Instead of acting to protect yourself and enable yourself to enjoy what you're doing and where you're going, simply cut off all contact with the outside world and you'll never be harassed again by anyone! Brilliant!Remember: if you're acting to stop someone from being a troll and ruining your game, you're remaining a victim! Don't do it!
9-10-2010 @ 1:40PM
Well I stand corrected. Good points indeed. Documenting everything is important and Blizzard is very good at enforcing their policies.Real Life harrassment however is a legal issue and against the law and needs to be presented to the proper authorities and any and ALL documentation and recordings should be made.I
9-10-2010 @ 1:41PM
The world is just full of level 1 toons who care not that you have an ignore button.
9-10-2010 @ 1:42PM
There was someone who stopped going outside for fear of harassment once. Her name was Anne Frank.OH THAT'S RIGHT! I WENT ALL GODWIN'S LAW ON THIS ONE!
9-10-2010 @ 2:16PM
Perhaps dmatulewic doesn't understand the kind of harassment that can go on in a virtual world. The server I'm on had a guy that was threatening to kill several members of our guild over some silly loot issues. He then stalked the girlfriend of one of the guys that upset him and threatened to do all sorts of nasty things to her. It wasn't just some jerk spamming a few people to join his new guild, it was terrible, very damaging and the abuse went on way longer than it should have. You can keep your mindset that jerks can just be shrugged off, but it should be pointed out that things can get very "real" very fast even online.
9-10-2010 @ 2:17PM
It appears that your level 80 characters are too leet for this sinful world of level 1 alts...
9-10-2010 @ 3:04PM
So I should stop engaging in activities I enjoy because some asshat is harassing me? Yeah, not so much.
9-10-2010 @ 4:33PM
No! This is called victim-blaming. Stop doing it. You are bad. The only person's fault for the harassment is the harasser's, not the victim of it.
9-10-2010 @ 6:04PM
I'd have to say that your comment was WAY off base, judging by the dark gray color of your post and the wonderful shades of blue from commenters and WoW.com staff alike beneath it.And then I read it.Wow...off-base is severely understating this, isn't it?Here's hoping you've wizened up a bit after your keyboard-in-mouth disease, but somehow, I sincerely doubt that you have...and THAT is the real tragedy here. You would prefer the bullies win and the victims lose in favor of typing /ignore rather than reporting. That is exactly what you have stated here. And while that may indeed be the simplest measure, said bully will then just go on to someone else. And someone else. And someone else.Let's not forget the fact that others see this bully doing what he's doing and get the idea that this is OKAY for this server. They may start doing it, or they may start leaving the server as per your suggestion. Soon, we have a server that has collapsed because it's full of nothing but people with the playground mentality you seem to dismiss out of hand, and while YOU may be okay with it, it does tend to ruin the game for everyone else who'd rather, you know, HAVE FUN.And what's really sad is that you will just dismiss all of these comments in the same fashion. Ignoring a problem only works some of the time. Most of the time, it just makes the problem worse.
9-11-2010 @ 4:03PM
His reasoning goes hand-in-hand with the gankers and griefers who say, "If you don't like being ganked/griefed, then don't be on a PvP server."Seriously, until Blizzard curtails all harassment. ie ganking/griefing, then all other harassment will be hard to eliminate. As it stands, thier harassment policy is hypocritical. One form of harassment is ok, yet another isn't.
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