The OverAchiever: More new and altered Cataclysm achievements

As with our earlier article, I didn't bother mentioning any achievement that's completely unchanged, but you'll find everything else here.

Cataclysm Dungeon Hero Fairly straightforward; you'll get this for successful completion of all nine Cataclysm heroics, which I should note includes heroic Deadmines and Shadowfang Keep. Even the normal versions of these dungeons are not pushovers -- and to be honest, as a tank, I'm a little nervous about the inevitable transition period from Wrath's festival of AoE to Cataclysm's "CC everything!" model.
This achievement's also required for --
Glory of the Cataclysm Hero Heroics only just became available on the beta (in a manner of speaking; access was bugged for a while, and Blizzard "strongly recommended" that all players copy over level 85 premades for the purpose of testing), so I don't have a lot of information about these yet. Some of the achievements reference NPCs or mechanics that aren't in the normal version of the dungeons (I think).
More information to come, but I think it's safe to assume that, like Glory of the Hero, this is going to be a fairly time-intensive (and PUG-unfriendly) meta. Once stats, masteries, talents and overall class design become a little more stable on the beta, I'll see what I can do to assemble guides on the dungeon achievements.
Glory of the Cataclysm Raider This is similar to the Icecrown Citadel achievements in that the heroic version of most boss fights will be required for the meta, in addition to achievements that will doubtless be easier to complete on the normal version. I'm not sure how I feel about that. The Icecrown frostwyrms were a logistical headache for guild leaders who had to juggle players needing the heroics against players who still needed the "regular" achievements. Any new or reserve raiders who came in just restarted the issue.
Then again, anything's better than a repeat of the nightmare that was Immortal ...

Many of the new professions achievements are predictable, as the new skill cap is 525, so Blizzard's simply bumped up the requirements for achievements awarded for maxed-out professions. From what I can see, the new additions are not currently required for the meta-achievements (Hail to the Chef and Accomplished Angler), so anyone who still needs to get this done will only have to worry about content through Northrend.
More Skills to Pay the Bills Pretty much expected, but with the addition of archaeology, this is going to be a wee bit tougher than its Wrath counterpart. I've been pecking away at it on my beta main, and while archaeology is seriously a lot of fun, it can be slow going due to the enormous amount of time spent traveling and some RNG along the way.
Professional Illustrious Grand Master What a mouthful, but another expected one. I wonder if Blizzard's worried about running out of adjectives to designate the latest high-rank of professions (a problem that's surely occurred when it comes time to name the next arena season).
Working Around the Clock Again, expected.
Cooking
Illustrious Grand Master Cook As expected.
Iron Chef The next step up from Chef de Cuisine. I wonder if Blizzard's going to normalize the number of recipes available to each faction; right now, the Alliance has a pretty serious advantage when it comes to getting 160 recipes with a minimum of fuss.
Let's Do Lunch (Alliance) and Let's Do Lunch (Horde) I've been doing the cooking dailies pretty regularly and for some reason have only ever gotten Careful, This Fruit Bites Back. I'm not sure if this is because the other dailies haven't been implemented yet or if it's just a persistent bit of RNG. Anyway, the Stormwind/Orgrimmar cooking dailies are very much like the Dalaran cooking dailies in that they reward special tokens redeemable for new cooking recipes. Interestingly, they reward a skill point for cooking, too.
The Cataclysmic Gourmet Most of these are the recipes you'll get from redeeming the new cooking tokens with suppliers in Stormwind/Orgrimmar, so you'll be doing dailies for a while before you nab all of them.
Fishing
Illustrious Grand Master Fisherman As expected.
Deadliest Catch With Zul'Gurub going bye-bye as a raid, I don't know if this achievement's going to stick around. Zul'Gurub will still be in the game as a leveling area, but that's about it.
Fish or Cut Bait (Alliance) and Fish or Cut Bait (Horde) In contrast to the cooking dailies, these all seem functional, and none of them require a lot of travel time as long as you can fly in Azeroth. If you can't fly -- as I've discovered on my low-level goblin and worgen characters -- getting around Stormwind and Orgrimmar plus outlying areas can be a real nuisance. Orgrimmar in particular is now much bigger, and the trip from fishing's daily quest giver to, say, the goblin slums for No Dumping Allowed feels like you need to stop for lunch along the way.
The current quests give a skill point but also award the same Bag of Fishing Treasures you can get from the Dalaran daily. I'm not sure if that's intended or they're planning on another set of rewards for the Stormwind/Orgrimmar dailies.
The Limnologist and The Oceanographer I sense the hand of Ghostcrawler at work. Look, Blizzard, just because some yoohoo with a marine science Ph.D. comes to work for you is no reason to make me drag my ass all over the world yanking 84 different species out of waters with disturbingly pedantic salinity specifications.
First aid
Illustrious Grand Master in First Aid As expected.
Preparing for Disaster Between this achievement, the nerfs to healing efficiency and the beefed-up health pools everyone's rocking on the beta, if I don't see some players bandaging themselves at every available opportunity, I will grow violent.
Ultimate Triage Embersilk bandages (the new level/s of bandage for Cataclysm) have been added to this achievement, so if you wind up tackling it at 85, you won't have to go back to Northrend to farm up Frostweave.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
Schadenfreude Sep 23rd 2010 12:07PM
I'd also like if it was a daily competition. Right now it's really insane and the jackassery is infinite.
Spelio Sep 23rd 2010 12:20PM
The tourny does take a bit of luck but it is possible to win it. I personally have won STV's twice (and get yelled at when ever I show up now) for the Fishing Pole and the Trinket. Like the previous poster has said though: Avoid pools already being fished. It isn't efficient enough to drop a line or two in a pool already being fished then have to re-mount and go find another one. Too much time is wasted. Move on down and find one that isn't being used.
If there is a lot of competition (horde v alliance) then get some friends to start grieving the opposing faction while you concentrate on fishing. This can help a lot. Not much you can do about your own faction other than keep moving and hope that the RNG gods show a little mercy to you while being cruel to them.
SamLowry Sep 23rd 2010 4:32PM
...or just toss EZ-Throw Dynamite at everyone else's pools.
matt Sep 23rd 2010 11:25AM
I sure hope that the limnologist and the oceanographer awards titles. I hate fishing but as someone who studied zoology at university, I would grind some fish to rep those nerd-alicious titles
Craig R Sep 23rd 2010 11:48AM
call me....
fishmael
annye.driscoll Sep 23rd 2010 12:49PM
@craig: It's so weird seeing your comment. My WoW main and my D&D main are both "fishmeal".
KJP Sep 23rd 2010 11:54AM
Professional Illustrious Grand Master, or P.I.G. Master for short.
Neirin Sep 23rd 2010 11:58AM
"disturbingly pedantic salinity specifications."
This made my day right here.
shockologist Sep 23rd 2010 1:40PM
speaking of fishing.... With ZG being removed , or at least that is what I read here weeks ago, does that mean the achievement for fishing in ZG with the special lure will be removed from its meta?
Grovinofdarkhour Sep 23rd 2010 12:01PM
Are "The Limnologist" and "The Oceanographer" going to be titles as well as achievements?
Allison Robert Sep 23rd 2010 12:47PM
As of now, no -- they're just achievements. It would be funny if they were, though.
Eithlinn Sep 23rd 2010 1:21PM
If they are, my step father may finally approve of my playing. He's a Limnologist and doesn't think anyone knows what it is.
Grovinofdarkhour Sep 23rd 2010 1:28PM
That's awesome! Sounds kinda like when I popped Iron Maiden's "Somewhere in Time" album in the cassette deck in Dad's car one morning back in high school, let him hear "Alexander the Great"... ("you gotta really listen, it's like a history lesson, Dad...") and his opinion of heavy metal was changed forever.
Def Wolf Sep 23rd 2010 12:01PM
Hmmmm, I see Bloodfin catfish listed 3 times???? So far only about 5 fish there I haven't already fished up. ;)
Dharmabhum Sep 23rd 2010 12:44PM
Which begs the question: will the achievement be retroactive?
RogueJedi86 Sep 23rd 2010 2:13PM
Don't forget Barrelhead Goby listed twice too. So there aren't quite as many fish to fish up. :)
Skarn Sep 23rd 2010 11:05PM
Highly unlikely, Dharm. Your character usually doesn't store information of that nature, such as what kinds of fish you've fished up, what foods you've eaten and so on. The achievement, once implemented, records it, but not your character. Achievements like this one are lost when copying a character to PTR, for example, because there is no place that info is stored other than the achievment.
Spelio Sep 23rd 2010 12:24PM
I was wondering that myself...would hate to have to go back and re-catch all of those.
(cutaia) Sep 23rd 2010 12:40PM
I'll be flying around the new old world to see all the changes anyway, so I'll probably just add some fishing stops along the way.
Dharmabhum Sep 23rd 2010 12:48PM
Any idea if the achievement changes go into effect with the 4.0.1 pre-Cata patch or will they only be updated to these new ones with the launch of Cata itself? I'm not worried about those that clearly require Cata content, but in anticipation of the changes to Loremaster, I'm wondering if I should really pick up the pace and finish Outlands. I've got EK and Kal done as well as Northrend, so anything that will significantly change is already taken care of, but I'm just not sure if I should race through Outlands now or if I'll have an extra few weeks after the pre-patch drops (which I'm predicting for October 5 btw, coincidentally the end of Brewfest).