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9-26-2010 @ 11:28PM
So, Mages, you wanna be friends?:)
9-26-2010 @ 11:37PM
Yes, We do.
9-26-2010 @ 11:48PM
I would, but I'm in the LFG queue and joining a group would kick me out. Sorry.
9-27-2010 @ 12:13AM
For a nominal fee, sure. ;)
9-27-2010 @ 1:29AM
Get yourself a [Jaina's Locket] and you'll never lack for friends.
9-27-2010 @ 3:09AM
Ah, still lovin' being a mage.
9-27-2010 @ 4:09AM
Ugg . . . while I love the convenience of being able to port myself and friends, I will NOT miss the peace and quiet that I have now. With Trade chat turned off, and parked in Dalaran, I can sort my bank / G bank, my mail, work on professions, chat in guild chat, party, chat, manage a few whispers with some friends (sometimes all at once) and often, wait in queue, often with friends (which as one of the posters above stated, WILL break if someone leaves a group).Anytime I step into SW (usually to meet friends who are there) I get asked for ports. I don't spend much time in SW. :P(This is not aimed at the original poster of this comment section - rather, at the public in general). Could be a good time for few refresher points on getting ports. Mages never OWE you a port except to leave a raid or when you are all questing together. Always tip, as much as you can. Always ALWAYS be polite and don't take it personally if they say no - they are probably busy. Mages standing around are probably NOT waiting for business (unless they are advertising in trade for port business). Even with a tip, I have to admit, it's a bit of a bother - tip just softens it a little. If you are my friend (i.e., you have earned REP with ME) you can pretty much count on a free port as long as you don't abuse it. Ports cost a reagent. Yes it's cheap, but NO ONE is obligated to spend their own silver to do you a favor. If you say you'd like to BUY a port, for God's sake BUY a port, don't get grouped and expect a freebie. Don't order around a mage. Ever. EVER!!! It sounds stern, bur for anyone complaining about mages who are grumpy, it's probably because we've not always been treated well in these cases.And I hope mages will be polite to those who are nice to them - either taking the request and porting them to the place they requested, or turning them down politely ("I'm sorry - I'm in dungeon queue - good luck though." or something like that). But mages have no obligation to take s**t from people who feel entitled to a free service and talk to them like some lackey. It's even OK to put them on ignore.On my Warlock, if I need a port badly, I will get a Rune of Portals. I will find a Mage in a city where I am at. (I use the WHO feature to do a search - find a mage of the apporpriate level close to your location). I will whisper the person politely and request a port - I will name what I am prepared to pay (10 to 15 g usually) and offer to come to them. When we are grouped, I will open the trade window and put in the gold and one Rune of Portals. I will make sure to thank the person (either as they are casting or right before I click on port). I quickly click on the port, say a polite goodbye or another thanks, and leave the group as soon as I do.Be kind and courteous to mages, and it could get you far. (Literally). :D
9-27-2010 @ 5:37AM
@ SnackPatrol1) You can lockpick outside a group, we can't.2) You also have the possibility of a tip, ask.3) They're 20s each, 16s eith Exalted. Learn to research.4) Just because you weren't "busy" ingame, doesn't mean other people do nothing.5) Healers ressing and mages portaling. Where is the link here? Please?6) He never acted all "high-and-mighty". He kindly asked people to be polite and consider the mages view, something you clearly haven't done.7) Since you "quit", why are you even interested in that post?Yep. 7 replies to block text. If I look back at my WoW window, I wonder how many portal requests I have...
9-27-2010 @ 5:38AM
@snackpatrolDid you quit before the LFD tool was implemented ? If so then your post is excusable as you may not know about "sitting around waiting for a dungeon to pop". As a dps this can take anywhere from 1 minute to 30 or 45 minutes. Joining a group to make a portal for someone throws you out of this queue and makes you requeue once the portal is done ostensibly resetting and lengthening the amount of time you have to wait.So umm yeah unless you are my wife, or someone that lives close enough to offer me food or sex, resetting my LFD wait time isn't happening.
9-27-2010 @ 5:43AM
This is in response to SnackPatrol. I have been signed up for a long time, and decided to respond to your comment:I'm not sorry. I don't like your attitude. It's the sort of attitude I'd expect from people who play annoying classes. I was surprised you weren't a fury warrior.Good job, you were nice enough to lockpick stuff for people when you played the game. Too bad some of that kindness couldn't have crossed over to the way you addressed Sarabande's comment. Additionally, I find it pretty funny that you complained about people acting "all high and mighty" when you're the one throwing insults at somebody because they don't play the game exactly the way *you* would like. People who play Mages pay just as much for the game as you do/did. If they don't want to port people, that's their business. It's just as easy for you to ask another mage for a port as it is for them to throw you on /ignore--especially when someone as childish and angry as you has something to say about it. Get your own reality check. You say you don't play anymore? Then why is this such a huge issue for you? Stop spreading your negativity around. And for the record, Portals take 10 seconds to cast. :) Have a nice day.
9-27-2010 @ 5:45AM
@ SnackpatrolOme more thing. On those days that I am feeling generous enough to give a dollar, I'm certainly not giving it to anyone but the most courteois, respectful recipient. I'm not wasting generosity on jerks.And yelling at me, begging harder, or insulting me will not change my mind.
9-27-2010 @ 6:34AM
@SnackPatrolAs hard as it'll be for you to believe, I do give portals, and even when people ask to pay, I simply do it for free.What my point is, in cases where we are busy, which believe it or not for me, is quite often, people asking for portals should at least understand that we're not slaves. For example, when standing around I could be in a raid group, waiting for it to fill. That, or I'm usually in a dungeon group, so I end up replying back to them that I can't at the moment. And yes, I read your post. Fully. Several times. That's why I had to go into a list to explain what I felt of your post. I'm sorry that we disagree, but my view remains unchanged, as does yours.
9-27-2010 @ 7:21AM
@ SnackPatrolIf you think it's a terrible analogy, then you don't uderwtand what an analogy is.And as for "it's only 10 seconds!" arguement, that is just the cast time. You forgot the time to locate the othe person, travel to them, have them drop ther current group, and make the tip exchange. That is anywhere from 15 seconds if they're right next to you to 5 minutes if they're in some obscure corner of Exodar not wanting to go to the mage. And this is all for a single portal. Now multiply that by all of the requesta a mage may get. Your "10" seconds is anything but.Now about your sense fo entitlement: no mage owes any random stranger a portal. Just because they have the ability does not mean you get to demand they use it. An as for the minimal time you clain it takes to port you, you are just as capable of taking a flight path/boat as anyone. There's no place in Azeroth or Outland that you can't get to without a mage.P.S. My highest level mage can't even make portals yet, so this is from the perspective of a guy who appreciates the mage's he's befriended.
9-27-2010 @ 7:41AM
@Snackpatrol#1. The world doesn't owe you shit, either.#2. I make many things in game. I charge fees for everything (I do almost no 'will work for tips' business, and the little I do is a charity). It is completely reasonable to ask for a fee for the sunk cost of playing a mage for many many hours to get up to level whatever. This is basically the overhead. #3 Yes, the reagent cost is low, but remember the overhead. That's where so many people fail. I see this in inscription all the time. "Come on, it only costs you 50s to make that glyph". Actually, it cost me the time to get to level 68, and 3 solid months of clicking every single day to learn the patterns. And the cost of milling herbs, making glyphs, and putting them on the AH. That takes TIME. And Time=Money. I expected to be compensated for such an investment. And you know what, the money per hour in inscription is only between 250-500g (and nowdays we are getting absolutely slaughtered, nobody is buying anything right now, so actually dailies are more profitable). We're not getting any richer (or not much richer) than the guy who sits there and does dailies every day. If you aren't doing either, and complain that you have no money and expect charity, screw you. I'm doing this "work" in game because I like to have money and I don't expect a free ride. Why should you?
9-27-2010 @ 7:44AM
@SnackPatrol"Please dude, I have a feeling you just have a hard time admitting you're wrong at this point."Look who's talking?(just had to, it's ironic, really -- now, Im out)
9-27-2010 @ 11:45AM
@ Snackpatrolor snacktroll as i now think of youSo you picked a few locks - so were you expected to travel from say Exodar to Stormwind to do it? Mages are.Do you have to go and buy new lockpicks every so often so you can do it again? Mages do. Does that seem a little inconvienient - esp when you are trying to do something? Iike scanning AH for prices, crafting items, talking in group with friends/guildies etc etc etcI have never NOT been charged for lockpicking, gem cutting, crafting etc etc, so why do you think mages should give a service for free? This is ofc assuming they are a random person ie not guildie, not friend, not someone I have grouped with for any reason. Portals from me dont cost much - 1g usually. But neither will i go out of my way. If im busy in exodar, i dont owe a lift to a ill mannered oaf in Ironforge.And as per you observation - ooooh 1g minus the 20s - 80s PROFIT - my god lets all buy more mammoth mounts (sorry for sarcasm but you cant have it both ways - either complain about cost vs profit or say both are negligable) Ditto about the time - when i was in SW i get a /w about every 2 mins - with grouping - moving to them (cos most people are ignorent and wait for me to move) casting, running back to where i was, takes not 10 sec, but at least 1 min, usually more. Thats not taking into account the time it takes to actually trade with them if they do actually produce a tip (the normal tip once a portal is up is 'ha ha -- get the money 1st'). So rather than '10 sec' - another well researched piece of info there eh - its at least 1 min - every 2 mins - thats 50% of MY game - you know - the game i wanted to play. Me being a mage does NOT give you the right to dictate to me what i do with my time. If you want it, then you offer something in return (tangable or non tangable), be it cash, service, friendship, association etc. I do give free ones out to a) polite and b) needy people. That lvl 17 newby for instance, usually GETS 10g a couple of bags and offer of tips with the portal. That lvl 80 dk that said 'mage - portal dal now' and nothing more gets charged 10g.BTW you ameteur dramatics will always get you downvoted. Let US answer for ourselves and you for yourself- if you try to answer for us - it makes you look even more of a twat.Saying things like "Omg 10 WHOLE SECONDS? WHERE AM I GOING TO FIND TIME TO PLAY THE GAME?" is childish, stupid and nothing like the truth - so why do it? Esp as i have already stated is badly researched and just plain wrong.Lastly u remember your HS - thats the big round object in your bags - with a cd of 30 mins? So noones going to do a '25min' journey. If you are sooooooooo big about making sure portals are free for everyone, please roll a mage and do so.Oh and I personally dont believe anyone who is so vitreolic on a post would be kind or generous in game either. Its counter to what you portray, so no i dont believe you picked locks for free, nor gave away large sums of cash, nor even quit the game. I think your a troll who is in the game and wants free portals - or cant organise yourself so your HS CD is free when you want to port somewhere. Either way you are rather pathetic.
9-27-2010 @ 8:01AM
Good grief! Seeing that Snack is being downvoted and the Mages are being upvoted, NOW I understand why people offer me so much freaking gold to port them! As long as I'm not grouped and waiting in a queue, I will always port someone who asks politely, and I never ask for as much as a copper. If I am grouped I just explain the situation; no one has ever given me crap about that. I've even been known to go save people from Exodar (or Silvermoon City now that I'm Horde) even when I'm elsewhere. Of course, if someone just demands it, I ignore them and go about my business, but I can count on one hand the number of times that has happened in the 2 and a half years I've been playing.Nine times out of 10 they give me at least a gold or 5 anyway, and I've gotten up to 100g more than a few times. More than makes up for the people who took me up on the freebie. Seriously, if this is the way most Mages are, I apologize to the rest of Azeroth on behalf of all Mages.
9-27-2010 @ 8:11AM
Sounds like I'll be trading my fast tank queues to mages in exchange for portal service.
9-27-2010 @ 8:34AM
I actually agree with SnackPatrol here, even though I don't agree with his tone.I've played for over five years and it's just too common that mages (why is it always mages?) will refuse to give portals or conjure water - or even take offense from me asking, however polite I might be.You rolled a mage, deal with it. If you can't stand using the abilities given to you, you should've gone with a warlock instead.Now, I fully understand that a mage won't be too happy to join a group while they're in queue for LFD, and if they tell me that of course I won't bother them. In fact, a simple "no, I'm busy, sorry" will do. But that's usually not the case. Most won't even bother to answer me at all, and the rest either complain about the costs or say something along the lines of that they're not my slaves and I should just take the long way to my destination.I'm not a fan of the "I play this game for myself and no one else have the right to lessen my joy in any way" mantra that has become so popular lately. This is not a single player game - you have to take into account that other people are playing too and you have to act in a way that includes them. If you can't stand other people, play a single player game. This game is not for you.
9-27-2010 @ 8:51AM
Well, I for one like this change. I virtually never use portals since the LFG tool came out except to move the occasional guildie around or a "first" trip to Dalaran. Since my main is a mage and I don't raid, I haven't really used a rune of portals in weeks. I think it is good that Blizz is starting to remember there are a lot of gameplay aspects OUTSIDE the instances.A "zone" grouping tool would be kinda nice - sort of like LFG but for people on the same server in the same zone.
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