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9-27-2010 @ 12:39PM
With BC, came a portal/loading screen if you took a flight path from the Undercity to Ghostlands (for an example). I was told it was a way to stop people who didn't have BC from accessing BC content (or something like that). Will similar things be implemented throughout Azeroth in Cataclysm? I know you people who don't have cata will see the new changes, but as for level 80+ zones/content they can't access, what will they see?
9-27-2010 @ 1:05PM
They haven't detailed it yet, but there is apparently some other mechanic in place that prevents people without the expansion from accessing any of the new zones, that won't cause an inconvenient loading screen for the rest of us. This mechanic will very sadly not be extended to previous expansion content, namely Quel'thalas and Azuremyst Isles.
9-27-2010 @ 1:17PM
I know I read that old world flying at 60 won't be available until you purchase Cata. So, they definitely can't fly to any new zone. Not sure about walking to a zone since I'm not in beta. Somewhere I saw that a portal will take you to one (or several) of the new zones so that could be an easy mechanic to control it as well.
9-27-2010 @ 1:55PM
I'm going to guess, they may put level requirements on the portals. It's on summoning stones and instance portals. I can't think of anything similar that had a level requirement, but it shouldn't be that hard.
9-27-2010 @ 1:58PM
You can walk into Twilight Highlands and Uldum, but even as a level-80 toon in full 277 heroic ICC-25 gear, you're liable to get eaten relatively quickly by level 84+ mobs.So even if they don't add extra barriers to prevent you from accessing those two zones, the inability to level up past 80 or get any of the new quest reward gear (not to mention dungeon drops) should do the trick quite nicely.
9-27-2010 @ 4:30PM
My guess is that they'd walk into an area with nothing. I had forgotten that ghostlands didn't exist before BC, so when I was working on world explorer on my main (an NE druid), I attempted to swim up the coast from arathi (or.. somewhere over there, I forget exactly) because from the map it looked like I should be able to. I also remembered there being a coast because of a lowbie BElf quest that I'd done before. But I ended up swimming around and never finding that coast, or a way up the mountains. I could get on the ground and run around, but not get up the hills. On the map it looked like I was right in the middle of the land that should be ghostlands, but I was in the water. Then I looked it up and remembered how I had gotten there before, quite by accident, following a road out of EPL. When I did that, and the BC screen came up, it dawned on me. Even if we won't have Cataclysm loading screens, I'd guess that something similar would happen, they'd see a spot where they should be on the map, but actually be standing in the middle of nothing but terrain.
9-27-2010 @ 5:39PM
"On the map it looked like I was right in the middle of the land that should be ghostlands, but I was in the water. "Chetti,Different scenario. Those BC starting zones don't exist when you swim out there because they are actually on different servers. While they are a part of EK, their placement in the actual map used by the game is somewhere on the Outland server. Uldum, Twilight Highlands, Hyjal, etc., most definitely will be visible and seen by players without Cataclysm. The question of how they'll be kept out of them, is indeed an interesting one.
9-28-2010 @ 8:17AM
I have a feeling that they will use phasing. They made heavy use of it in WOTLK in Icecrown, and if I remember right, I believe I read that they would continue to do so in Cat. I am not a game designer by any means, but it would seem a fairly easy thing to implement.
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