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9-27-2010 @ 1:03PM
Is that a High Elf WARLOCK!?But the Blood elves- and the demons- and the disagreeing..I-......-what?Lore confusion overload!*Head asplodes*
9-27-2010 @ 1:11PM
High Elves are still dependent on fel magics just like Blood Elves. The High Elven faction (like the Silver Covenant) are just Blood Elves who stayed loyal to their Alliance comrades when the rest of their race (the Blood Elves) went into seclusion following the Third War.
9-27-2010 @ 1:21PM
Why confusion?It's not like the High elves are some purists or what. Plus, the Blood Elves of QuelThalas aren't fel addicts or anything - it's Kael'Thas' lot that is. People really get it confused up about what it means to be a blood elf and a high elf. It's got nothing to do with fel magic or demons or anything (by the way, the blood elves' green eyes aren't coused by fel magic). Once a High elf starts studying demonic knowledge and uses the powers of the Nether doesn't make him a blood elf. It's like with human or gnome warlocks - do their eyes glow green or they breath green fire? No.Plus, there's nothing in their culture that prohibits a High elf to becoming a Warlock. So if he chooses so, he does it like Warlocks in every race - they do it underground :)
9-27-2010 @ 1:26PM
MikeLive, I have to correct you:Blood/High elves aren't addicted to fel magic, they are/were addicted to the power of the Sunwell (which back then was primal/arcane, now is joint Holy Light/arcane). And yes you are right that High elves differ from their Blood breathren only by politics - but it's the Alliance that booted them, not that they left willingly. :/
9-27-2010 @ 1:35PM
My bad, it's been a while since I refreshed myself. I just knew the separation was a political one.Though I can't figure out why they were booted by the Alliance. After all, some were allowed to stay. I know a group, lead by Kael'thas, was rejected by a particularly racist Alliance commander (Garithos) and they allied themselves with Lady Vashj and the Naga, eventually fleeing to Outland after the Alliance sentenced them to death. Why Silvermoon and the majority of the population left the Alliance as well I can't seem to figure out.
9-27-2010 @ 2:07PM
@MikeLive: I think you keep getting stuck on booted out vs. walking away, and admittedly it's a blurry issue that I think cuts to the heart of the High/Blood Elf schism. For one thing, numbers play a big role in it. Pretty much all of the small handful of High Elves you see walking around nowadays were the minority of people who were living outside the borders of Quel'thalas when Arthas attacked, in places like Dalaran. The vast majority of High Elves were living in Quel'thalas at the time, and thus got slaughtered (I forget the numbers exactly, and it depends on how canon you want to take the tabletop books, but IIRC it was something like upwards of 90%). The High Elves who are still in the Alliance didn't see any of that up close and personal, they just started feeling the illness and the withdrawal. It could be argued that being far from the immediate situation, they didn't understand the desperation that drove their brethren to fel magic, and thus it was very easy for them to sit back and judge from the lofty towers of Dalaran.From the Sin'dorei perspective, it's a no brainer, though: they were minding their business, when suddenly one of their ostensible allies (Prince Arthas of Lordaeron) showed up on their doorstep with a massive zombie horde at his back, razed everything, took a giant lich dump in the sacred thing that sustained them and powered their whole civilization (making everyone ridiculously ill in the process), and no one showed up to help. To his credit, Kael still reported for duty with the small handful of survivors who were well enough to be in fighting shape--and then Garithos treated them like shit, and sentenced them to death for treason because the only way they could survive his ever-moving goalposts was getting help from naga. One could make a good argument that hearing this, the Sin'dorei said screw this, and left the Alliance--it's not like they were getting helped, anyway. Naturally, the Quel'dorei see this from an entirely different perspective (they shunned the Sin'dorei for sating their withdrawal using fel magic), and thus you have the political schism. As usual for these kinds of things, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, but this conflict isn't going away any time soon. Rommath turning heel is probably just going to rub salt in the wound, from the Quel'dorei standpoint, especially given that he's the one responsible for all those fel crystals hanging around Silvermoon.
9-27-2010 @ 3:34PM
Conviently ignoring how the Elves ragequit the Alliance after the Second War. Or how they sat back and let Lordaeron fall to the Scourge.
9-27-2010 @ 6:15PM
There are two lines separating the Blood Elves and the high elves. First, and probably more importantly, is the political line. The Blood Elves stayed loyal to their king, while the high elves stayed loyal to the Alliance. Secondly, there's also the whole (later) thing where the blood elves chose to replace the energies of the Sunwell and feed their addiction to its arcane energy by stealing fel energies from demons. The most obvious effect is that, as can be seen in-game, high elf eyes still glow with the arcane energies we saw in Warcraft 3 (and possibly earlier, though I've not spent much time with the earlier games.) while blood elf eyes have the green glow associated with demonic energies.
9-27-2010 @ 6:45PM
Lore confusion head explosions usually result from people who can't seem to separate lore from game mechanics. There are lore reasons why certain things are more common or uncommon among various races. Because of this, the game mechanics prevent *players* from choosing certain options. There is and never has been any lore barrier for individuals of any race from choosing any class. Since characters in lore are not players dealing with a video game's character creation screen, they do not have the limitations players do. They may face other difficulties due to their choice, but there is no lore barrier that utterly prevents anyone from any race becoming any class.
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