Cataclysm: Justice point conversion revised
by Robin Torres 
Sep 29th 2010 at 12:30PM
- Emblems of Triumph = 11.58 justice points (up from 2.75)
- Emblems of Frost = 11.58 justice points (up from 2.75)
- Justice point cap = 4,000 points (around 345 emblems)
- Justice points over cap = 47.5 silver each after patch 4.0.3 (down from 2 gold)
BashiokWe've revised the Justice Points conversion rate for Emblems of Triumph and Emblems of Frost. When the upcoming 4.0.1 patch goes live, these emblems will be converted into 11.58 Justice Points (up from the previously planned 2.75 Justice Points per emblem). Justice Points accrued above the soft cap of 4,000 will be converted to gold at a rate of 47.5 silver per point (down from 2 gold per point) when patch 4.0.3 goes live.
BashiokThe previous conversion rate was intended to devalue Frost and Triumph a bit to discourage some amount of farming and hoarding of points before the conversion, but then we came to the conclusion that no matter what we do people would be farming well above the softcap, and we shouldn't try to make it more difficult for them to do so.
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Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
TaiChi Sep 29th 2010 2:29PM
Guys you're not seeing the whole picture.
Suppose that when Cata arrives you farmed tons of triumphs and you have 4000Jp? That sounds good, you feel you are ahead. Exept that you are not because you can only buy Lvl85 blues when you are lvl85.
And on your way to 85 arent's you running a few dungeons? Yes
Aren't those new dungeons going to award Justice points? Yes again
Will these points be wasted? Definitely Yes bc you are over the cap.
Just saying
Thanos73 Sep 29th 2010 4:10PM
Just saying you are wrong. I hit 85 and have 4k points to spend. You hit with zero cause points for running normal instances do not happen. Just saying I am ahead of you.
Ashwan Sep 30th 2010 5:00AM
@Thanos73
The random dungeon finder is likely to be awarding Justice Points for non-heroics like it awards triumphs now. So if you're at the 4k cap for JP, your points are going to waste.
sihx21 Sep 29th 2010 4:03PM
Yep, looks like for heirlooms, there might be a very slight advantage to holding onto your badges (at least frost and triumph) and waiting for the conversion. It appears to be about a 6% bump in value. Example, a chest piece currently costs 40 EoH. Assuming you only have frost and triumph to spend on these (by converting down to EoH), the 40 badges = 463.2 justice points after 4.0.1 drops. The reported cost of the chest in Cata is 435 JP, making it about a 6.5% gain in JP.
Rasanara Sep 29th 2010 3:41PM
I get my heirlooms by doing the dailies from the Argent tourney. I keep hearing about using badges for them. What am I missing?
Cassie Sep 29th 2010 4:22PM
You can also get heirlooms by down-converting your frost/triumph/etc badges to the lowest level, in Dalaran. There's an heirloom vendor in with all the other badge vendors.
Alkard Sep 29th 2010 5:11PM
Does anyone know how many Justice Points are earned in an average Cata Heroic?
mynameisjoeness Sep 30th 2010 9:42AM
cata heroic bosses grant 75Jp each.
Leman Sep 29th 2010 5:12PM
i dont know if its been answered, but i think its important to ask: how long do we have between 4.01 and the hard cap implementation of 4.03
Eirik Sep 29th 2010 5:13PM
I'm farming emblems for an entirely different reason than "raking in riches": I'm only 50 badges away from the 2500 dungeon and raid emblems earned. Since there won't be emblems in cata, I'm guessing that this achievement will either become a Feat of Strength or be simply removed. I can live with it being removed, but By George, I'll have earned it first!
And hey, ya know, you kinda get more gold traipsing through dungeons and selling the loot than you'd get from converting the emblems to gold, so it doesn't make lots of sense to "not make farming emblems worthwhile" in the sense of "converts-ta-gold".
But then, badge gear has largely been a replacement for raid gear of one tier or another. (Vendor gear, on the other hand, has largely been a tease - you generally get equal or better gear while gaining the reputation you need to buy the offered gear.)
Picviewer Sep 30th 2010 1:43AM
Blizzard store sometime 2011
Justice points 1000 @ 4.99, 2000 @ 8.99, 3000 @ 11.99 4000 @ 14.99 BOA tokens useable on any character click here to buy.... after purchase confirmation character selection screen in a catalog style shows up on how you want to distribute the points to your characters.
Tokens show up in your ingame mail.
haberkornj Sep 30th 2010 2:24AM
I guess the math behind it is :
95 Frost badges x 11.58 = 1100.1 justice points
Thus, the price for a T10 piece remains the same.
eyeprod420 Sep 30th 2010 12:55PM
Ugh.... I wish I would have known this a couple days ago... I thought there wasn't any reason to hold on to my Triumph badges and just spent the bulk of them on heirloom armor for an alt I only play a little. Such is life. The good news is it feels like there is a reason to continue to get some daily Triumph badges. I was going for the daily Frost badges but wouldn't always bother with the Triumph.
TheBigFatMuffinMan Oct 1st 2010 9:09AM
Haha! Now I'm justified for not rushing out and buying Primordial Saronite and heirlooms like my entire server did. And now Saronite prices are at an all time low, as everyone bought some, and they're all trying to get some gold from it. Yay paying 300 gold for a piece of Saronite that was 1k last week!
Redrum Oct 1st 2010 5:20PM
Any word on what happens when you kill a WOTLK or BC heroic boss after the change? Do they now drop Justice points too?
Will there be any way for a level 70 player to acquire level 70 vendor epics? What about a new level 80 toon? Will they be able to acquire tier 10?
IplayWoW Oct 2nd 2010 11:41AM
@Prenden2
Yeah, me too =/
Architect Oct 12th 2010 10:44AM
Will random Lvl 80 heroics in the DF continue to award emblems (now Justice Points) after Cataclysm drops? Or will that system be retired?
If we can continue to farm justice points from Lvl 80 heroics, there's no urgency to get emblem-capped before Cataclysm begins. If those lvl 80 rewards are going away, it will be easier to farm those justice points now with quick random heroics than it will be to earn them from the harder-by-design dungeons of Cataclysm.