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10-03-2010 @ 2:24PM
I'm not a big RPer, but picture this:A worgen Death Knight who USED to be a Gilnean warrior, killed in a battle against the Forsaken encroaching on their lands--except even though he re-enters the world in the service of the Lich King, little does he know that he was actually brought back by......Sylvannas.
10-03-2010 @ 2:30PM
How does he enter the world in service of the Lich King? The Scourge has gone inactive after Arthas' death, it's pretty much been established that Worgen and Goblin Death Knights exist purely for the sake of game mechanics.Also, according to in-game quest text: A human infected with the curse of the Worgen is IMMUNE to being resurrected by the Valkyr and thus cannot become Forsaken (As demonstrated by a Forsaken quest involving Crowley in Silverpine Forest)
10-03-2010 @ 2:33PM
That doesn't make any sense lore wise.
10-03-2010 @ 2:36PM
Wow, I totally just said I'm not a big RPer, but thanks for trolling me instead of going along with it. Because EVERYTHING in Warcraft Lore is technically correct right? You yourself just said that the in-game mechanics play a larger role then the storyline. Then again, isn't Role Playing about making your OWN story within the Warcraft storyline? Try not to get so technical, or judgemental, regarding Roleplaying.
10-03-2010 @ 2:44PM
Well I agree with your ideas of how RPing doesn't have to make total lore sense, but at least try to get one or two parts right to give your character's story something others can relate with.For example, it would be hard to go from say England to the US and start talking about a exclusively English culture to Americans who didn't have any points of references to be able to understand your background, I know the example is a little contrived but the premise is still the same as the first paragraph.
10-03-2010 @ 3:48PM
I'm just wondering, why does it matter whether its arthas or sylvanas?
10-03-2010 @ 4:27PM
"it's pretty much been established that Worgen and Goblin Death Knights exist purely for the sake of game mechanics"But it's also been pointed out that the worgen in Grizzly Hills offer a little wiggle room on this, from a story point of view. Granted, it means your worgen death knight wouldn't be a Gilnean and would have, IC, become a death knight before you could actually roll him up. But, hey... how many human characters were actually rolled up as a citizen of Lordaeron and played in a time before the Scourge threat? Not everything in that wiggle room is lorebreaking. However... yeah. That raised by Sylvanus thing has some serious issues. I tried looking up the post that explained that. I know I read it here... when "here" was "there" a few months ago. I just can't find it now. Anybody got a link?I have wondered about where to work goblin death knights in, though. Sure, there are Steamwheedle Cartel goblins in Northrend. They just don't seem likely to be killed and raised as death knights, though.
10-03-2010 @ 4:33PM
@CheeselandmanIt's relevant because Sylvanas cannot "resurrect" those afflicted by the Worgen curse, Arthas can.In fact, the fact that Sylvanas cannot do this is a MAJOR plot point during the quests in Silverpine and part of the reason why the Forsaken have a particularly hard time against the Gilnean Liberation Front, once they become Worgen they become immune to the Val'kyr and Sylvanas cannot keep doubling her numbers easily.
10-03-2010 @ 4:35PM
When you make dumb posts and get corrected you shouldn't get angry.You're wrong, we're right, get over it.
10-03-2010 @ 4:58PM
@MuchaoYes, I was not yet aware of this new dialogue information regarding Worgen DKs being Arugal's Worgen (as well as the new info regarding Goblin DKs) so I apologize for that bit of ignorance, it still however holds that only Arthas' forces have the ability to create Undead Worgen through Arugal, Sylvanas cannot using the Vry'kul.
10-03-2010 @ 5:06PM
"isn't Role Playing about making your OWN story within the Warcraft storyline?"Honestly, since you did say you're not a big RPer, my answer here is intended to help you. I think this is a question that often causes RPers to do a real life /facepalm, but I see how it can be a point of confusion for someone who doesn't make RP a priority.The point of keeping your character lore appropriate is what you said, but with the stress on a different word. To make your own story WITHIN the Warcraft storyline. Your character lives on Azeroth. Even if you do something like choose to play a dwarf as a Wildhammer, or something else that doesn't follow the mechanics to the letter but isn't exactly lorebreaking, your character still has some basic rules of existance the are bound by.From a RP perspective, not all Night Elves have to consider Darnassus their "home". You can play a Night Elf who thinks Staghelm is an idiot and wants the tree chopped down. However, Night Elves who were born on Teldrassil are a problem. Teldrassil hasn't been there long enough.A character was called to my attention the other day who is supposed to be half dwarf/ half blood elf. Her mother was, apparently, working as a barmaid in Orgrimmar and was raped by a blood elf. The first thing to leap out at someone there is, "How was a DWARF employed as a barmaid in ORGRIMMAR?" What really makes this a problem, though, is that Orgrimmar hasn't been there long enough, and the blood elves have not been blood elves long enough, for anybody of any blood elf/whatever mix to have been concieved in Orgrimmar and be of adult age.Personally, I react IC to lorebreaking claims that are made in IC. One of my characters met a blood elf who claimed to have grown up in the Horde being told what monsters the Alliance are. My character has expressed her concerns that the destruction of the Sunwell may have scrambled his brains. I also explained to him OOC that blood elves haven't been blood elves, or members of the Horde, long enough for that to be how he grew up.RPers should work within the lore. Deathwing will tear up Azeroth bad enough... RPers don't need to do it, too.
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