Insider Trader: Market alerts from The Undermine Journal

You remember The Undermine Journal, right? Here's what I wrote when I discovered the alpha. The creators have been busy managing the growth of the site, adding servers and realms, as well as periodically adding new functionality. It's in beta now, and they just added the most interesting feature: market alerts.
You can now set up the site to email you every time stuff you're looking for hits a certain price. For example, if you are buying Saronite Ore to prospect so you can take advantage of the removal of the epic gem transmute cooldown removal in patch 4.0, you can go to your realm on The Undermine Journal and set it up so it will email you whenever the price goes down to your target.

Once you have the alert set, every time the site gets fresh data from your realm (apparently about once an hour), it lets you know if your alert has been triggered by sending you an email. You have three options for alerts: "cheapest cost to buy [qty]," market price, or "available buyout quantity." Let's talk about some of the ways you can use this.
The first situation we talked about is simple. If you want to buy something, use either market price or cheapest price for [qty]. This allows you to find deals, assuming you configure it correctly. Saronite is just one example of this; however, I also use it for enchanting mats, food mats, herbs for inscription and old ore for prospecting. The difference between market price and "cheapest price" is in how it's calculated. Market price is a good standby because it is the average price you'd pay if you bought out the cheapest 15 percent of stock; however, I like to use "cheapest price" because it lets me decide how much I am willing to log in for. It's also immune to the effects of people's listing stock at unreasonably high prices, knowing it won't sell, just to get the market price higher.
The sell side
The value for getting stuff cheap is obvious; however, you can also use these alerts to help you sell more profitably. If you sell something that's constantly getting undercut, you can get notified when the market price goes up or the supply dries up. I am not willing to take the time to craft something if I'm selling it at or near cost. I have too many fingers in too many pies to tolerate unprofitable uses of my time. To that end, in some of the really competitive markets I'm in, I use market alerts to tell me when the opportune moment for posting is. I have two alerts set up for Eternal Belt Buckles, for example. One of them will notify me if the cheapest price for 3 buckles is over my desired profit point (20 percent, in my case), and the other notifies me when there are fewer than 10 available for sale.
Each of these situations gets a different response for me. If the price goes up, I simply post from my stock and note down that I need to get more raw mats when I find a good deal. If there are only a few listed but the price is still low, instead of undercutting, I'll overcut and maybe even consider buying a few of the really cheap ones for reposting.
All about the rares
Some markets are only available if you are really lucky or are willing to splurge on rare recipes. There's a wealth of weird old stuff, some of which is really valuable, that only drops incredibly infrequently from a wide array of random mobs. Whether you're buying it for resale or to learn, you can really get much more effective at finding these items with alerts. When I was looking for my spellpower to weapon enchant, the last thing I wanted to do was take an hour to clear all the bosses in Molten Core and hope that I got lucky with a drop. I searched the auction house for it every time I logged in for three weeks until I saw one posted for under 6,000g, and then I bought it immediately. I'll bet I missed a few of these just because I hadn't happened to log in at the right time, and if this alert service had been available, I'd have loved it. Now I use it for potentially soon-to-be-removed polymorphs.
Filed under: Economy, Insider Trader (Professions)






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Suss Oct 4th 2010 4:24PM
I wonder if prices will converge more on servers covered by this site. Between mobile AH and the new ability to get updates on price swings, I would imagine many auctioneers would be swooping in changes across realms. Might be an interesting economics paper for a college student with a bit of time and willingness to do some regression analysis.
Basil Berntsen Oct 4th 2010 4:43PM
The balance of supply and demand is what determines price in any given realm, and that balance will not always be the same. Each realm has its own ratio of hardcore and casual players, as well as auctioneers, and all of these will play a part in determining market prices by realm.
Suss Oct 4th 2010 6:58PM
My point was whether, after accounting for all those differences, this tool might eventually lead to more competition and potentially closer prices. One would have to compare realms with similar characteristics that are covered against those that are not.
BritishBulldog Oct 4th 2010 4:27PM
I hope they start doing EU servers soon... I've not been able to take advantage of this yet :(
In other news, Basil, will you have my babies?
wutsconflag Oct 4th 2010 4:29PM
Oh, wow! Now that my server is up, I can see how my competitors are posting and post around them. *evil grin*
lordkeldarion Oct 4th 2010 4:31PM
Yes! I have loved watching this site since you mentioned it all those weeks ago. When you hit your realm you have the option to search for your stocks (in game items) or read the articles people are putting out about different money making ways on the AH. Please Basil keep finding things like this to make our auctioneering lives a better place to be
Ebbony Oct 4th 2010 4:43PM
I've been using this for the past week to watch for some n-c pets I've been trying to get. It's amazing how bloated prices get, even for pets you can buy for cheap from a vendor! This has been extremely helpful, and coupled with the remote auction house, could potentially be a very powerful way to make money. Using this method, I won a Green wing macaw bid for 30s on an item that I've seen at almost 1000g!!
Kuro Oct 4th 2010 5:23PM
Sooo....
Would it be against WoW TOS to put a post on realm forums asking for help in getting our faction listed? Kinda on a small backwater server..
Nuhvok Oct 6th 2010 3:08PM
It took me a month to get my faction listed. I used my computer and my schools computer to finally get it added. Vote every day for your server and I dont think its against the rules to talk about the site on the forums.
aforestdarkly Oct 4th 2010 5:26PM
I might actually care about this if my server was listed.
Jamie Oct 4th 2010 5:38PM
Seems what you need to do is care enough to get your server listed so all can benefit.
bagaar999 Oct 4th 2010 10:42PM
can't see where to setup.
No option to add in User controls & can't find any other links to add
bagaar999 Oct 4th 2010 10:49PM
sigh, nvm, just drill all the way down to the item
HerriPaul Oct 5th 2010 6:13PM
I just registered on the Undermine Journal today and I may have gotten a nice looking phishing email by way of them.
Anyone else?
Thanks
Tom Oct 6th 2010 3:06PM
Nah, The Undermine Journal is a legit operation with a trust worthy guy.
If you guys want to get you server listed you need to vote for your server every day. You guys know economics with supply and demand. If you demand your server be listed, he will supply it.
HerriPaul Dec 21st 2010 2:47PM
Undermine Journal just SHUT DOWN!
NOOOOOOOOOooooOoOOOOoooooOoooo!!