Scattered Shots: BM not the premier spec for Cataclysm extreme soloing
Welcome to Scattered Shots, written by Frostheim of Warcraft Hunters Union and the Hunting Party Podcast. Each week, Frostheim uses logic and science (mixed with a few mugs of dwarven stout) to look deep into the hunter class. Got hunter questions? Feel free to email Frostheim.
Like an elf telling you about his most favoritest butterfly, the Cataclysm beta goes on and on. But unlike elf stories, the beta feels like it's getting somewhere. We're now seeing fewer major class changes and more and more tweaking to shot damage -- something that was nearly entirely absent in the early days of beta.
While shot damage, spec DPS and stat weights may still be up in the air, we've now got pet scaling nailed down, and our talents seem mostly fixed (though surely they've got to do something about Counterattack eventually). It's time for us to turn our attention to extreme soloing in Cataclysm.
The first shocking thing that leaps out at us is the fundamental fact that it appears that BM will not be the extreme soloing spec of choice in Cataclysm. In fact, BM may well be the worst extreme soloing spec. Join me after the cut for the shocking changes to pushing your hunter to the limits and beyond.
More health is good
We know from our previous discussions on extreme soloing that the most important things are pet health, damage mitigation and healing. We don't care about DPS or threat, since we can eventually kill anything if our pet can keep tanking it, and we can drop threat or slow DPS as needed.
Cataclysm brings us a very healthy boost in stam, both to hunter and to pet. With blue-level gear, you can easily get your tenacity pet in the 70k-80k health range. This is a massive improvement to the amount of damage your pet can absorb.
More health means more healing
The new Mend Pet now heals your pet for 25 percent of its total health over 10 seconds. This means that the more health your pet has, the more Mend Pet will heal. This is also true for the Spirit Bond talent and the Silverback pet talent. All of these heals are based on a percentage of your pet's total health.
The new Glyph of Mending (now a major glyph) was nerfed to only provide a 3 percent increase to pet healing (and doesn't currently work besides), but the Blood of the Rhino pet talent is still giving us a 40 percent boost, along with the 10% from Spirit Bond. It is very easy for your Mend Pet to heal for over 5k per tick.
This, combined with more than doubling pet health, opens up a lot more content for soloing from vanilla through Wrath. Cataclysm content, unfortunately, is built with massive damage that more than equals our pet health and healing increases.
Why BM is no longer the extreme solo spec of choice
Currently on live, BM is the only spec you'd want to extreme solo with 98 percent of the time. This is because the spec offers the following advantages:
- Endurance Training
- Thick Hide
- Spirit Bond
- Catlike Reflexes
- Beast Mastery (because it enables us to get both Wild Hunt stamina increase and Silverback self-heal)
Finally, the four extra talent points from Beast Mastery are no longer necessary for us to get all of the extreme soloing talents -- with the change to Wild Hunt, it's no longer a stamina boost and we don't need it for extreme soloing.
So BM no longer offers any must-have extreme solo abilities; however, it still gives us harder-hitting pets and some more pet talent points that could be of marginal use, like for Last Stand or Great Resistance.
Unfortunately, BM actually brings a disadvantage.
A big part of extreme soloing remains the tier 5 two-piece set bonus that heals our pet for 15 percent of the damage that we deal. And as we do more damage, we heal our pet for more. But -- and this is a big but -- this only heals for damage from the hunter, not damage from the pet.
Not only does BM get a much larger percent of its damage from its pet, but BM's signature shot is Kill Command, which is considered to be made by the pet. Your tier 5 will not heal your pet based on Kill Command damage. So now we have all specs able to get pets with just as much health and just as much mitigation, but MM and SV will be able to heal their pets significantly more than BM can.
I have a hunch that MM may become the extreme solo spec of choice, just because of its ability to combo up the Chimera Shot self heal with the Spirit Bond self-heal.
The crit factor
The big unknown right now for Cataclysm-level extreme soloing is your pet's chance to be crit. Our pets still have the Grace of the Mantis pet talent that reduces their chance to be crit by 4 percent. Alas, in Wrath, raid bosses have a 5.6 percent chance to crit. Previously we managed that other 1.6 percent through resilience, but in Cataclysm, resilience will no longer provide crit reduction -- or any affect at all in PvE.
I spent far too much time over the weekend measuring raid boss crit chances to see if perhaps they have a lower chance to crit in Cataclysm than they did in Wrath (or, Titans help us, a higher chance). This was time that could have been much better spent consuming frothy adult beverages that make one irresistibly charming to the opposite sex. Alas, testing vanilla through Wrath bosses demonstrated only that raid boss crit is currently bugged (or at least bugged for pets) and my charm remains resistible.
It's a pretty safe bet, however, that boss crit chance will stay at 5.6%.
What we'll be soloing
Right now, the massive damage dealt by Cataclysm mobs, combined with our likely lack of ability to make our pets crit-immune, suggests that unless something changes, we won't be soloing much in the way of significant Cataclysm content. However, a lot of previously unsoloable BC and Wrath content will open up to us. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some Wrath raid bosses pretty easily soloable by the Cataclysm hunter and her trusty pet.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Chad Oct 4th 2010 9:06AM
BM no longer the solo spec?! Poppycock I say!
Elmouth Oct 4th 2010 1:09PM
Yea, This just feels wrong.
MM for solo, BM for raiding?
What are the devs thinking...
Also I'm not sure I see use being able to pick Spirit Bond, Imp mend pet AND Hunter vs. Wild with any decent MM build.
Elmouth Oct 4th 2010 1:29PM
After looking into it a bit, here's what I'm probably going to use unless they change talents drastically :
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#ccbboZfMGRGRMuboo:s0kzRaMz0
Frostheim Oct 4th 2010 2:21PM
I'm talking about *extreme* soloing here -- like soloing Molten Core and Naxxramas bosses. BM is still great for your normal soloing/leveling.
Elmouth Oct 4th 2010 3:17PM
Pretty sure everyone got that from the post title, its just faster to say solo than Xtreme soloing every time.
Besides, lvling/farming can be done just facerolling on the keyboard with any spec kind of spec unless you're a pantless mage :p
Zacky Oct 4th 2010 9:07AM
So when is Blizzard going to nerf the Tier 5 bonus that is providing too much of an advantage over current gear for soloing? I am amazed the bonus of an outdated set is pretty much mandatory for the more difficult solo hunter encounters.
Angus Oct 4th 2010 9:22AM
When they care about outdated content.
Considering they aren't changing ICC with the new raid lock outs or class changes and don't care that it will be vastly different and possibly easier or more difficult until Cataclysm comes out, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Blizzard doesn't care if you solo half of TK, SSC, and BT. Doesn't matter.
Bahska Oct 4th 2010 9:58AM
Actually not true they are implementing the new raid lockouts for icc, also they tweaked icc mobs a bit as well.
Probably not a significant amount though.
Zacky Oct 4th 2010 10:03AM
They don't care about outdated content? Then how do you explain the nerfs to old world enchants that would barely affect a level 80? When an outdated armor set is being used to strengthen your character's capability over anything newer armor can provide, that's just not logical. Make the tier 5 a talent or perhaps a glyph as the bonus is too strong.
Oni Stardust Oct 4th 2010 12:05PM
They're most likely not worried because T5 is only that powerful for soloing outdated content, which is a niche playstyle that they don't actively work on or balance for.
If T5 was better than current gear when playing current content, then they would probably do something about it. But as it stands T5 is having little to no effect on the current raiding, leveling, or PVP games so they're not concerned.
sherekhan88 Oct 4th 2010 12:28PM
Actually I find the T5 gear completely unnecessary so far with what I've been doing. I've successfully soloed Kara and MC completely without it. Prince was a little tough going into that Phase 2, but I used superior damage to push quickly through it instead of relying on the heal.
A lot of hunters forget how positioning is important for the pet tanking, an example in Golemagg in MC. Frostheim had to use two T5, but I found it was prolly because the Turtle tank wasn't positioned correctly to DODGE all hits from all 3 mobs (Golemagg and his two pups), hence receiving far more damage than he should. Since I play a tank on my main, I knew about the positioning requirement and about never having your back turned to a mob. I simply had my turtle stand in such a way that he is always able to dodge any incoming hits. This, plus using Power Auras to keep track of the Magma Splash debuff and spaced out use of pet cooldowns, my pet never went below 60-70% health.
Link to my armory: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&cn=Tirei
I think I only own one piece of T5 (still as yet not bought with the token), and I use 4 pc Relentless and various high stam pvp gear for my extreme solo set, using that BM spec as my solo spec.
Snuzzle Oct 4th 2010 12:50PM
Zacky, your comment would have a lot more weight if my bear wasn't STILL having to farm Outland mats to enchant her ICC weapons with Mongoose.
Undra Oct 4th 2010 1:30PM
I never got to see any t5. I comissioned my brother to follow me in and if anyone asks his name is Twopiece. But with cata asking for guilds to take at least one last trip to BC raids I might get lucky.
Which means that until I secure the right peices, BM will remain the better choice.
Frostheim Oct 4th 2010 2:22PM
T5 is usually necessary at the leading edge of extreme soloing -- for example when we were clearing MC within months of Wrath release our gear was massively worse than it is now (and we didn't have cower for our pets, or all the consumable like runescroll of fort). Later in any expansion the gear curve usually gets high enough that the extra healing isn't as important, though there usually remains bosses that can only be solo'd with the t5 set bonus.
Anaughtybear Oct 4th 2010 9:09AM
MM being the solo spec instead of BM makes as much sense as the priest tanking while the warrior bandage-heals him.
sherekhan88 Oct 4th 2010 12:34PM
At least I understand if it was Survival.
I mean, it's in the name!
Matthew Oct 4th 2010 7:17PM
My disco priest beat my guilds icc tank in a duel. I know this has nothing to do with this but it somewhat seemed relevant.
long live cutaia
Brannon Oct 4th 2010 9:19AM
He's saying BM won't be the best choice for 'extreme' or raid boss soloing. He's not talking about solo questing or general grinding.
Emelie from Dunemaul Oct 4th 2010 9:24AM
"Cataclysm brings us a very health boost in health..."
I'm glad it's not a focus boost...?
Ogri Oct 4th 2010 9:31AM
So, it might be worth a try to solo some TBC content once I ding 85 to get to pieces of T5? Or maybe the T5 is still necessary to do so and I'll be stuck in a catch 22 limbo of hunter soloing?
Btw, I have found the improved mend pet talent in the BM tree quite valuable as it removes most diseases, curses, magic effects and poisons from the pet. And this is in Cata a second tier talent in the BM tree (I do wish that it removed bleed effects too so I wouldn't need to kite Buru...).