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10-05-2010 @ 3:31AM
so what does this mean for AIE
10-05-2010 @ 3:54AM
What this means for AIE is they can keep their bajillion members, but they can't add anymore. Which means they'll have to make AIE-1, -2, -3, etc to add members.It stinks, yeah, but Blizzard realized the mistake of the past with guilds and decided this would be the best way to fix it.
10-05-2010 @ 4:38AM
AIE WILL NEVER DIE. No thanks to you, Blizzard.
10-05-2010 @ 6:51AM
What it really means is that people who dont raid and dont contribute much to guild level/progress, cant leach bonuses.They can always make a custom chat channel to connect multiple guilds if they need to."/join AIEGLOBAL"
10-05-2010 @ 7:01AM
You break the guild into leveling, raiding, etc. or whatever segregations you like. There are chat addons like the ones used by the Stonewall guilds on Proudmoore, which keep all the guilds in the same chat without having to join a '/newchat'.And seriously if this in any way improves the experience for the vast majority of the population of WoW, I don't see how super large (see: bloated) guilds can complain.
10-05-2010 @ 9:34AM
Sorry for being ignorant, but what's AIE?My biggest question, though, is how do the big guilds weed out members? How do they decide which members stay and which ones go?
10-05-2010 @ 10:03AM
they dont have to HiwaSinapsis was misleading, read the blue post to the end and you find"The small number of guilds that are over the 600 person cap will be able to keep their guilds intact (and fully supported in the new guild system), but they will not be able to add new members until they fall below the 600 member cap."
AIE is Alea Iacta Est: http://www.aie-guild.org/They're big. Like, REALLY REALLY big.
10-05-2010 @ 10:37AM
Thanks for the answer guys. I had read the last paragraph, and I just kept wondering how the large guilds are going to manage to get below that 600 member cap. I know that technically they can stay at their size and not be penalized, but I wonder if they will feel pressured to downsize anyway. And if that's the case what will be the criteria? Perhaps if I was in their shoes I would make a sister guild for leveling alts, another guild for raiders, a guild for social activities...at any rate makes me glad I don't have to be faced with those kinds of decisions.
10-05-2010 @ 12:28PM
Honestly, AIE and guilds like it are the main reason why this 99.9% of guilds unaffected stat is bogus. The question isn't how many guilds are harmed, but rather, how many active players, and since these affected guilds have the most players, (by necessity of the change) and the number of guilds is bloated by players with vanity guilds with one person in them, far more than 00.1% of players are being affected.And in reply to Hiwa, I'm sure they will feel the pressure to be downsized. Part of the nature of guilds that large is to continue accepting new members, and if you can't do that (until you reach 600, an impossibly low number for a guild that size) your main function as an all inclusive meeting place is destroyed.
10-05-2010 @ 1:08PM
AIE is Scott Johnson and Randy Jordan's guild (of The Instance) it's the largest WoW guild in the world, something like 5,000+ members
10-05-2010 @ 2:21PM
This will be good for AIE. It should help them move from a mob, warm-body guild to a number of guilds that are might just be more enjoyable to group with. While I have grouped with some very nice people from AIE in randoms, generally their members are quite mouthy about non-members in random pugs. An unfortunate fact of human psychology (that is, their being in AIE makes them the _in_ people), but annoying when you just want a smooth, drama-free run.FYI, just watch some the AIE people down vote me because they don't like it when it is mentioned they have some problematic members. ^_^
10-05-2010 @ 2:22PM
WoW Armory says: alea iacta est, Earthen Ring, 6792 membersWhich may be more people than on all of Chromaggus put together, horde AND alliance.
10-05-2010 @ 7:39PM
Its really easy to pick what toons to cull in guilds, remove all the toons that have been inactive for the last few years or so. Probably things like alts and whatnot.
10-06-2010 @ 6:40PM
actually that makes sense, last time we heard about it, wow had 12 million subscribers active, if we consider that at least 11million of those are probably in guilds, then the few mega guilds like AIE of which there are probably a couple dozen, would make up maybe 50000 characters(not accounts, and probably a huge amount of inactive accounts still in guild) so probably 30000 active subscriptions, then 30k/11m is 00.27% of the total population of wow players. even if theres 100000active members of mega guilds, thats still only 0.9% of the total members in guilds.i'm just pulling numbers out of my head, if you have real numbers please prove me wrong.
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