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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
10-08-2010 @ 10:50PM
Hagu said...
1) IMHO this change will move sales from the "enthusiastic amateur" to the professional. (It took willpower to keep that clean.) People who violate the TOS with underground mining bots, BG hk farming bots, etc will have software to handle this in a few hours of release. It's the people who listen to Call to Auction, read market blogs like JMTC who will be greatly inconvenienced and greatly disadvantaged relative to the other sellers who will now have noticeably more powerful tools.
2) For those who think the title is hyperbole, if you looked at the number of entries that are facilitated by addons like this, I think you would be surprised. How many of the 7,000 glyphs in the AH do you think were lovingly posted by hand by someone without addons?
3) I think there is a valid point to be made for, even if Blizzard implements this, they exempt glyphs and perhaps gems. Managing 400 different items with multiple inks and parchments and the joys of milling make glyphs very different than producing 10 blacksmithing patterns.
3) Of course, much is exacerbated by the rudimentary AH User Interface. Why can't people without any addons say bid or buy every frostweave cloth below 30s with one hardware click? Or how about being able to place buy orders? Or better searching and filtering? Maybe my 6GB machine with a 15GB WoW on it does not need to display AH items 50 at a time???? ...
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10-08-2010 @ 10:52PM
Hagu said...
/sigh. Unlike I, addons can correctly count to four.
10-09-2010 @ 12:34AM
Lorini said...
The 'professionals' can already use hacks and probably already are using hacks, so this change really won't affect them or necessarily increase their numbers. What I think the change is designed to do is stop the activity where one person dominates a market just because he has enough stuff to post thousands and thousands of glyphs, automatically cancel them if they are undercut, and then post thousands and thousands of glyphs again to keep anyone else who doesn't have as much product as he does out of the market. Unless he puts his account at risk by using bots (and if he posts thousands of glyphs in 10 minutes it will be obvious) then he'll just have to post the most profitable ones. Then the more casual player can still make a few gold from what's left.
I play the AH casually but don't use automating so I certainly don't have a problem with it, in fact I'm looking forward to the change.
10-09-2010 @ 12:46AM
Pfooti said...
Actually, Lorini, most serious auctioneers don't cancel undercut auctions. It's *far* easier to (say) craft 10 of each glyph, but only post 2-3 at a time. Then when you're undercut, post new glyphs at the lower price and let your old ones expire. This has the double benefit of reducing the amount of time spent running your AH game and backstopping the market in the event of a run on a particular glyph (sometimes people will buy 5+ of one if they're going to go back and forth for a raid or something, although that's rare).
To your main point: yeah, I don't think there will be more botters in an absolute sense, but I think the botters will adapt and stick around while some of the non-bot competitors will leave.
I am going to continue my theme from above as well: you're wrong when you say "Then the more casual player can still make a few gold from what's left." This change makes it LESS likely that a casual player will make gold. Think about it- you are apparently failing to make gold under a regime where it's easy to post and if you want, undercut and cancel glyphs. Why is making it harder for you to post suddenly going to magically make your life more profitable? Because I'm certainly not going to leave the market just because I had to adapt to the new AH regime.
This change makes Glyphwar somewhat harder to play. The result of that will be the same amount of casual profit to be made in the AH (not much) and a slight increase in the price of glyphs, gems and so on as some people get discouraged and leave. Anyone who is used to dominating the market and wants to continue dominating, however, will adapt. So you'd better hope you're on the server where everybody decides to quit.
That or, you'd better decide to be less casual in your approach to the AH. Then you can make some gold.