Spiritual Guidance: Adapting to 4.0.1 priest healing

I was hoping to be done talking about 4.0.1 (mostly because I'm sick of typing out all the little periods), but it seems there are still a few things to be said. At this point I've talked specs, talents, new abilities, glyphs, gems and reforging -- and now the last thing I seem to have missed is the part where I tell you how to play. Or at least how to adapt. Or ... something. Either way, I suspect it's one thing for me to tell you guys how to play in a theoretical sense, two or three weeks before the patch, and then another thing to tell you exactly how to play when the patch is actually out. I had one reader ask, "What abilities should I be using?" I had another ask for a flowchart. Pft! Do you think I'm funny enough to make flowcharts? Silly readers, I leave flowcharts to the pros.
Anyway, I thought on this relevancy vs. redundancy idea for a while, mostly because I'm extremely paranoid that I bore you guys at every second. (Dawn puts on a silly hat. Are you not entertained!? /Paranoidparanoidparanoidparanoid ...) I eventually decided that the best thing to do was in fact leave it to the pros -- though I'm still not giving you guys flowcharts. Instead I've got our regular priesty friend Kinaesthesia on board to give a full testimony on playing holy right now, as well as a new name you guys may not know, Mr. Raegx of Vigil. Raegx approached me a few months ago, asking if I needed any help, and I stuck him in a file box. He's out now, though, so let's see what the two of them have to say.
I questioned both Kina and Raegx on various topics, but Raegx and I discovered a mutual appreciation for the machinima artist Paus, which kept getting us off topic (stay out of my dreams Paus!), so our interview was a bit disjointed. For that reason, I'm going to offer both their answers in a slightly different format. Don't let it distract you.
Kinaesthesia on holy healing in 4.0.1
"There's really no wrong way to heal in 4.0.1. The addition of Chakra and Holy Words make it so healing can be a lot more complex, but there is nothing wrong with keeping it simple. You can heal just like you used to if you want.
"Right now, we're playing with a lot of excess. There are lots of new talents and abilities that we have but don't need for the current content. But if you choose to utilize them, you'll have a lot more fun. Chakra is the big ability that stands out; you don't need to use it at all, but if you choose to use it, you get a lot from it. Now, everyone is going to suck at using Chakra at first, but if you try to use it, try to get better at use it and really work at maximizing what you do with it, you will get better at it. Plus, you'll be ready to use it in Cataclysm. Right now, playing holy is like learning a new class; it's a really different experience, even if you have the same core abilities.
"This week, I tried all the Chakras at least a couple times to get a feel for them. Renew Chakra was boring, because you're just spamming. 'Ooh, I can put more Renews up!' But you're just doing the same thing you did before, faster; that's really boring. I tried Heal Chakra, but there's no point in using it or Heal right now. With Prayer of Healing Chakra, you have to ask yourself: How do I maximize this? You've got 30 seconds, and you don't want to just keep spamming Prayer of Healing to keep it up and neglect your core abilities. It's almost like learning a rotation. You'll ask yourself, is this off cooldown? OK, let me do that. Oh, this is off cooldown, let's use that again. Is Sanctuary off cooldown? OK, now let's use that. You've got to watch your timers and procs. It's a lot of fun, and if you get good at it, it's really going to help you a lot in the next expansion. If you don't take the time to learn Chakra now while the mana is easier to come by, you're really going to suck at using it in the next expansion.
"So it's not really a rotation, but more of a priority. It goes like this: Refresh your Chakra, but try to keep your Prayer of Healing useful -- if you see an opportunity to use it, use it, so you don't have to refresh it for no reason a few seconds later. Use Holy Word: Sanctuary on cooldown, and if you're on top of it, your Sanctuary will overlap a little. Use Circle of Healing and Prayer of Mending on cooldown as well. Use Renew as your filler when you can't do anything else. Use Flash Heal only if absolutely necessary, because your hands will be full handling everything else.
"It is kind of hard on mana to upkeep this, but it really pays off. I was a good 10 percent above everyone else in output on the meters. You have Renew ticking on maybe 8 people at a time and Sanctuary on at least 10 if you get it in a good spot. Everyone else is getting Circle of Healing and Prayer of Mending bounces. You have an insane amount of coverage as a raid healer.
"I didn't change any of my gems when I logged in. I had nothing but spellpower + haste and spellpower + spirit gems before. I did reforge some haste. I'm using a spellpower flask still, but I considered using a regen flask (Flask of Pure Mojo or Flask of Distilled Wisdom) and would definitely recommend that if I was in a raid with longer kill times. Just remember you don't need to do this, but if you can it will be easier to learn now.
"For addons, I definitely recommend Power Auras. It's a mandatory addon for reaching your maximum potential. For Chakra, you can set an icon indicator with a countdown timer for how long is left. Right now, I set Prayer of Healing Chakra to have a meteor icon, because it's overkill. I also had to tweak few things, like Serendipity only having two stacks now, and I got rid of my Surge of Light alert because it never procs anymore. There isn't much reason to take crit anymore for talents."
And I'm back. Curse that Kinaesthesia, undermining my preachy You should try to stay balanced everyone! jargon. Anyway, I just wanted to add a few things. First, right after that last sentence, Kina and I talked more about Surge of Light, since we are both healing on beta and casting both Smite and Heal. We agreed that Surge of Light just doesn't proc enough -- maybe once per dungeon, if you're lucky. So just in case you were thinking, "Wait, he said he didn't even use Heal!" -- that's why.
Next, if you want to check out Power Auras more, this article from Mat will have a lot of information for you. I'll try to get some things together and do an addon article for you guys once Cataclysm launches, but so much will be breaking when we get the new game that I don't want to have to do it twice.
Finally, Kina encountered a pretty crazy bug while healing this week. His guild worked on Icecrown Citadel on Wednesday evening in the United States. Blizzard hotfixed a bunch of things early the next day, and one of them was this bug. Kina told me that before the fix, the bug related to holy priests using the Glyph of Dispel Magic, and that if you cast Dispel Magic, your Echo of Light mastery would stack indefinitely. I'll try to get a log to show you guys in the comments, but he said he was doing something like 68k HPS on Valithria because of it. All gone now, but still fun to think about. Kind of like when A Team mage tanked Instructor Razuvious, only for healers.
Raegx on disc and holy healing in 4.0.1
I started out my conversation with Raegx by asking what his initial impressions were of the patch. How did he feel about it, what was he was doing, and how was it performing?
"I love holy. It is so much fun to juggle Chakra stances and make effective use of Holy Word spells. Knowing fight timing mechanics is going to play a huge part of it of Cataclysm. Using the right stances and properly using Holy Word spells will separate the good priests from the bad. From the numbers so far, the extra complexity seems to pay off if you do the right thing, as opposed to what we saw in Wrath. This last expansion was mostly doing the right thing all the time, and really trying seemed to have little effect.
"With the lack of Judgment of Light and the pounding AoE damage, Holy Word: Sanctuary on melee and Renew spam seems like a very viable high throughput combination. Sadly, I haven't had the chance to tank heal as holy yet.
"Discipline still feels the same. With so much AoE damage going out all the time, it feels like a better use of shields to mitigate the eventual incoming damage. You still spend most of your time shielding, using your cooldowns as they come up and using Penance to save people who dip low. Discipline also has no mana issues, whereas Holy seems to still drain mana quickly. (It is very easy to go OOM as holy with very little effort.) Discipline's mastery is fine, but it doesn't really add anything you can appreciate all the time. Stronger shields are always welcome, but the Echo of Light effect is pretty nice to see, especially when people are taking lots of damage.
"I'm on the fence about Power Word: Barrier. It seems like a great spell, but its so hard to tell if anything is actually going on with it. Logging mechanics currently aren't showing it as far as I have seen."
Raegx provided me with the following rotation to give you guys. I've written it up in my own words for clarity.
- Renew Spam: Start your Renew Chakra. Use Holy Word: Aspire on one target. Cast Prayer of Mending, Circle of Healing, and Renew (in that order of priority) until you can use Holy Word: Aspire on a target different than the last. (You heal two targets because the duration of the HoT is longer than the cooldown of the Holy Word.) Repeat the last two steps.
- Prayer of Healing: Start Prayer of Healing Chakra. Use Holy Word: Sanctuary. Fill with Prayer of Mending, Circle of Healing, and Renew (again, in that order of priority) until you can use Holy Word: Sanctuary again. Next, if you have a reason to use Prayer of Healing two or three times in a row, do so, otherwise let Chakra drop off because you won't have enough time left on your Chakra to get another Holy Word: Sanctuary in.
- "I've noticed tanks deaths were more prevalent. That could be caused by so many issues it's hard to tell. People might be lazy due to stale content, working out how to use new abilities effectively, or it just might be balancing issues."
- "Atonement was also broken for disc. I spent an entire Deathbringer Smiting and doing very little DPS and no healing. I didn't see any numbers, but I kept going just in case it would show in the log."
- "Also, Sindragosa Holy Words don't trigger Unchained Magic. So you can keep your Holy Word: Sanctuary on the ground while you have the debuff. And since Holy Word: Sanctuary also triggers Echo of Light, you can stack off of it."
- "Void zone would not show up. It was mostly, 'Surprise! Death!'" [Talking about Halion here.]
"Before the patch, disc was gemmed for pure spellpower and Holy was max haste. Right now, when I play disc, I'm maxed for holy and haste. I have 1/3 Darkness as holy, and that gets Renew 6 ticking at 970ish haste. I dropped haste, though (with the thought that if I was Renew spamming I'd use Chakra to mitigate the GCD), and replaced it with intellect. However, due to mana concerns, I still need to spreadsheet out and see how viable gemming spirit is now. I've thought about trying to mitigate mana issues with Veiled Shadows and dropping Twin Disciplines, but again, I haven't had time to see how useful it would be. I will probably move points from Twin Disciplines to Mental Agility if spirit gemming is too costly."
If you can't tell, Raegx is quite the theorycrafter, so I'll keep you guys posted if and when he does some of his theorycrafting on the matter above or something else that becomes topical. I'd like you guys to see what he works with and get a nice diversity of theorycraft, since the theory Zusterke and I juggle will probably take different angles than Raegx's. There are a lot of different things healers can choose to prioritize, so I think the comparison will be good for you guys to see. More on that later.
Anyway, I think that covers just about everything from them. Disc priests might notice they didn't get a new rotation to work with, and that's because (as Raegx said) the playstyle hasn't changed. If you choose to incorporate a Smite or five in, you can, but you shouldn't need to. If you do want to use Smite though, the following targeting macro should help you out. Before a pull, just set your focus (target and type "/focus") on a reliable DPS who doesn't have a special job that involves kiting or rounding up adds and the macro will take care of the rest. It will even return your target to whoever you were healing just before you decided to use Smite.
Another thing I wanted to note, which I touched on briefly already with Kina, is that Surge of Light is pretty terrible right now for two reasons. 1) The percentage chance to proc the effect is quite low. 2) Unless you're a disc priest, you probably don't have much reason to cast Smite or Heal. That means holy priests who are big on using Flash Heal through the use of Surge of Light are out of luck for now. So what alternative do you have? Well, there is Chakra Renew spam if you're not opposed to it, or you can experiment with the Prayer of Healing Chakra rotations that Kina and Raegx both described. You may also just opt to cast Flash Heal without the instant effect, in which case all that haste you have stacked should help out. You could also try replacing your usage of Flash Heal with Heal, in preparation for the healing style you'll be using in a couple months, but if you do that you shouldn't expect your meter numbers to be competitive since you'll be healing more slowly for smaller amounts. You will be more prepared to the pacing of healing in Cataclysm though./target focustarget
/cast Smite
/targetlasttarget
If you guys want some more input from me, I'll be in the comments to answer questions. If you have a question for Kina or Raegx, just address it to them in the comments and I'll direct them to the question. And as always, if you have anything to share to your fellow priests, I encourage you to share it in the comments as well. See you guys next week! Hearts and heals!
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
Zheo Oct 18th 2010 11:13AM
It's because tanks are taking constant damage as compared to pre-4.0.1 when block stopped the damage completely. Now, block just lessens the damage, so the health bars are going down pretty consistently for most of the fight.
I think my resident shaman said it best: We're trying to heal Wrath content and mechanics with a Cataclysm toolbox.
Dezaris Oct 17th 2010 7:12PM
Great article! I love how you always include advice from priests in top raiding guilds, its always nice to hear multiple opinions on the priestly play style. I'm still grappling with Chakra myself, and I think that the upcoming cooldown reduction to 30seconds will help make it a more versatile ability.
Elhannan Oct 17th 2010 7:25PM
@Pfooti - I've been using a '[@mouseover, harm, nodead] [ ]' macro for Smiting, so I can mouseover an enemy target to Smite that or just Smite my target. A more involved version can work well with Penance, too. Disc/Smite is a ton of fun to play with. ^_^
Aurilia Oct 17th 2010 7:28PM
Healing with Atonement on Live I've noticed quite a few quirks. Examples include a target in melee range with any sort of health deficit, myself smiting at range and at full health, land a crit, and have a divine aegis bubble appear around myself - implying I was the recipient of the heal instead of the party member needing a heal.
Healing Heroic Nexus, I ended up with Atonement accounting for 48% of my healing done. This is not counting PW:Barrier. PW:S and DA were a significant healing spells as well, as was a few penances and flash heals where a target dropped below 50% health without receiving Atonement heals.
(Note for recount users and log readers: Power Word: Barrier, like Anti-Magic Zone before it, acts as an NPC when summoned. The damage prevention is recorded to the Barrier itself, and unfortunately does not seem to be recorded by value like PWS, DA, or Pally's Mastery.)
Dezaris Oct 17th 2010 7:34PM
So I just saw two new log in screen hints which are pure win:
1. Don't stand in the fire!
2. Click on the Lightwell.
TonyMcS Oct 17th 2010 11:05PM
Lightwell, although an old talent, is new to most all DPS, as is the concept of self-service healing. It's also the antithesis of the GOGOGO MORE DPS school as actually having to interrupt their rotation to click a lightwell would, horror or horrors, affect their place on the DPS ladder.
I even used it myself in ICC yesterday (as a Boomkin) and I initially found it hard to fit in to my unending search for Eclipses. After I realised how much easier it made it for the healers (who were still struggling to learn their new spells and dealing with some OOM etc), now I'll be making it a regular selection.
Unfortunately, WoTLK has contributed to tunnel vision (something much more likely in males) where your role (especially for DPS) was relatively fixed and simple. Having to worry about my own health and mana (used Innervate for the first time in ICC the other day ;-) ) makes the fighting a little more complex, with more decision making and less button mashing and that has to be a good thing ;-)
Zach Oct 17th 2010 7:34PM
From a newly 80 priest, I just want to say thanks, Dawn. I have never played a priest much before, but took advantge of a friend of mine wanting to get into WoW, and the oh-so-overpowered Recruit A Friend bonuses to level one. I spent my 70-80 levelling popping into 5-mans to heal as discipline, and it was fun. But now, having reached 80 right before the patch dropped, I went holy, and have been having a blast. I am still a bit undergeared, sand so mana management is a bit of an issue, but I am finding the Chakra system to be an absolute blast in heroics. Thanks again, Dawn, for giving us up-to-date info when it comes to healing with the most adaptible healing class in the game.
Hagu Oct 17th 2010 7:35PM
There is no rest for the weary; 4.0.1 leveling. Some of us are leveling a priest (or worse another priest). My 43 sp/disc was looking at some gear but it hit me that there has been a big change. In the past while leveling the meh gear (of the eagle) had int/xxx and the good stuff had +spellpower. So now hasn't that changed; i.e. the 15 int piece is now superior to the 10sp? Does anyone have a 4.0.1 string(settings) to put in my PAWN addon?
P.S. I read where they were going to "fix" some of the gear. I found a "of the wolf" (agi/spirit) wand in my bags. Even without PAWN I know that if you are stacking agility, your tank is doing something wrong.
Tiarnach Oct 17th 2010 7:44PM
YAY!! Now to dust off my space goat priest and finally learn to play him!! That poor neglected alt will be 85 #2, but this cycle I want him to see more than drunken Naxx... Thx, Dawn, informative and well voiced as always. :)
Liam Oct 17th 2010 8:01PM
What's wrong with Heal Chakra? It's pretty powerful considering how much mana it uses. You can basically be healing constantly while sitting at full mana, which means you can reserve Flash Heal for how I always figured it should be used: a quick, powerful emergency heal that costs enough mana that spamming it isn't a good idea. Mix in some PoM and some CoH and you are away.
I haven't had a problem healing 10 or 25-man with that set up.
Chakra is rad, though. I gave myself the 'Super Sayain' hair and now I just stand around Dalaran with an un-used Chakra doing its aura thing around me while feeling awesome. :)
Rakah Oct 17th 2010 8:29PM
in more healing intensive fights the output heal provides is simply not enough.
Liam Oct 17th 2010 9:38PM
Obviously I'm not going to sit there and rely solely on Heal for, say, Blood Queen, but for most fights I'd say 10k (Chakra'd) per heal is enough. Unless I was just trying to top meters for e-peen's sake, which I'm not.
I'll be interested to see how the triage system really takes effect in Cataclysm, especially with the healing for mana thing.
Rakah Oct 17th 2010 8:30PM
I'd also like to point out that one of the more significant changes revently was the armour normalisation, that being tanks have less armour and clothies have more.
Maxpowr Oct 17th 2010 9:00PM
Dawn, welcome to the lighter (aka holy) side of life. You have much to learn Padawan.
I'm more than willing to give you a quick write up/aide about holy priests and how to play in the "inbetween months" before 4.0.3. Feel free to email me.
Dawn Moore Oct 17th 2010 10:13PM
You can pry my bubble spec from my cold dead fingers.
Though seriously, I am playing holy more in beta these days. Before I got hired on at WoW Insider I was a disc/shadow priest, and I started playing holy (as I could, ICC encouraged me to stay disc) just so I could write more for it. People like Kina and Raegx, and a few others, are my go to peeps for holy info so I don't screw things up too badly. But hopefully after I get a fresh start with holy this expansion I'll become more proficient and intuitive with holy. I just wish I could still get to play shadow now and then.
Dave Oct 17th 2010 9:06PM
I found the following macro to be more useful for Atonement healing:
#showtooltip
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] smite
/cast smite
With that, you can just keep the tank targeted, and you'll cast smite on whatever he's targeting. You can also still target an enemy manually.
Vogie Oct 17th 2010 9:26PM
Also can be shortened to
#showtooltip
/cast [target=targettarget,harm]smite; smite
Pfooti Oct 17th 2010 10:11PM
Or further to
#showtooltip
/cast [@targettarget,harm]smite; smite
I generally focus my tank in 5-mans, so using an @focustaget macro works pretty well - the smite will go on some NPC that's getting tanked with active effects, usually, further reducing the (admittedly small) possibility that you'll rip from the tank because you accidentally smite-critted that mob that was just getting thorns aggro or something.
Eturyu Oct 17th 2010 9:51PM
My impressions as 251/264 geared holy priest at 80..
I have (and i promise this is true, go try it!) now tanked 5 Heroics using nothing but bubble PoM and Nova --->
bubble tank -> throw a PoM on him -> run in with the tank at same time, and nova spam while running in circles........
This will work on all dungeons except for HoR i would imagine, it worked fine in PoS. My mana never dipped below 93%................
To me although we have lots of new great spells, it seems you dont need any of the new stuff for current content (unless raiding) , and i was out dps'sing the poor warrior who showed up to our CoS run in blues and ilvl 200-219's
you would never have gotten away with this pre-patch....
obarthelemy Oct 17th 2010 10:02PM
Isn't that how everyone does it this days ?
Except your way is too complicated:
- don't bublle the tank
- don't PoM the tank
- target him/her
- type "/follow"
- bind your Holy Nova to a convenient place (my is mousewheel down)
- start watching TV
- wake up when the instance is done
if you're extra nice, you may want to "/p hey DPSes, i'm Holy Novaing this one, if you need healed, come closer".