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10-18-2010 @ 7:11PM
The Knaak reference there is unmissable.
10-18-2010 @ 7:17PM
You could sense the struggle in Sacco's writing in trying to clearly say how bad a writer Knaak was without explicitly saying "Knaak was a bad writer"
10-18-2010 @ 7:29PM
I am really surprised at this. I didn't think Golden's "Arthas" was written that well at all. I am enjoying Knaak's books a lot more. When I saw Golden's name on this one I just went "Ehhh".
Martamius, what's it like living on Bizarro World?
10-18-2010 @ 7:43PM
Fine, I'll say it: Knaak is a terrible, awful no good author who ruins anything he touches.Was that over the top?
10-18-2010 @ 7:44PM
Are cookies cakes and cakes ice cream there?Oh! I want to go!
10-18-2010 @ 7:50PM
Knaak is not that bad of a writer, but he just goes far off point in his books, Stormrage was ok, and WotA trilogy was also good, but the ones with Khadgar in them are not that good, I guess because he lets Khadger one shot Deathwing. NOT OK. Christie on the other hand is amazing, love how she depicts Thrall, and Arthas as a kid!
10-18-2010 @ 8:03PM
Though I don't agree with martamius in the least bit, I do actually find it interesting that someone enjoys Knaack's writing style. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but I always felt like the characters in his books were nothing more than a piece of cardboard with maybe a beard taped on to represent a male, or a great pair of epic chest pieces...IF you know what a mean...to represent a female.Mrs. Golden's writing however felt more fresh and full, giving new life into characters once thought complete. A great example is the ever popular Culling of Stratholme moment. For all that is holy, if I have to see that seen ONE MORE TIME, I will flip! Yet, when Golden wrote it, a whole new light was added. Arthas was angry, yes, but he was shocked and felt stung when Uther thought he was being sarcastic and bitter to him.Knaack...on the other hand....well, I can only imagine THIS scene playing out.Arthas: Glad you could make it, UTHER...Uther: Watch your tone with me boy, I'm still your superior as an officer!Arthas: As I could forget-*Massive Explosion, followed as a DeLorean stops in front of them. Out pops Rhonin*Arthas: RHONIN! What happened? I thought you went into the next expansion!Rhonin: I did Arty! But something is horribly wrong!Arthas: What? What happened?Rhonin: It's your kids Arty! Quick, into the DeLorean!*Arthas and Jaina jump into the DeLorean*Arthas: Hey, Rhon, are we going to have enough flight skill for this?Rhonin: Where we're going, we don't NEED any 310% flight speed....*Book ends with all three of them flying off into the distance, leaving both Uther and Mal'Ganis with green eyes of envy at the leetness*THAT is how he would have written it, I suppose.
10-18-2010 @ 8:07PM
Hooray, I'm outnumbered in liking Knaack's books.
10-18-2010 @ 8:24PM
I will probably be down-ranked for this but I think I can share my opinion.I find Knaak better that Golden. I just feel that her works are to much on the point. She does not really expand on anything or offer any possibilities. She just writes what Blizz wants people to see. Whereas Knaak put's new things into his books. Allows for new plots and characters to help expand and develop the Warcraft Universe.Just my 2 cents.
10-18-2010 @ 8:34PM
@ all those you enjoy Knaack and were open about there opinionsFOR SHAME! Having a different opinion than all of us, and more importantly, me! I SHALL DOWNVOTE YOU FOR BEING ORIGINAL AND OPINIONATED!!
10-18-2010 @ 8:55PM
I don't mind Knaack. And despite 'popular opinion' I can't be the only one. His stuff obviously sells, and obviously people at Blizzard like his writing too, or they wouldn't keep giving him work. Anyone who doesn't like him has an easy way to let Blizzard know that: Vote with your wallet and don't buy anything with his name on it. Trust me, if it doesn't make money, Blizzard will stop.As for Arthas, I have to agree, I really like Golden's writing, and have since she was doing Star Trek novels, but i don't feel that Rise of the Lich King was up to her normal standards. To me it really seemed like just a recitation of what we already knew from in games, with very little character building. Especially as Arthas was growing up, it really seemed set to just speed towards the story for WC3. We get flashes of him being young and him meeting/observing some famous lore characters from past games, but no real depth to it.That's not to say that others can't feel differently. That's the great thing about being individuals, we can all have our own tastes and feelings.
10-18-2010 @ 9:10PM
I've only read two Warcraft Books so far; Stormrage and Arthas. I didn't really like either. Arthas felt like a bunch of deleted scenes put into a book rather than a full-fledged novel and Stormrage was agonizingly slow to get started and had some seriously boring characters.However, out of the two I'd have to say I liked Stormrage the better. Why? Well, it wasn't a good book but it was at least exciting. It started out mind numbingly slow but by the last third I generally found myself interested in the characters' survival and how they were going to "save the world" as corny as it may sound. Arthas felt like someone else was playing Warcraft III for me, except poorly and without any of the suspense. Stormrage felt like I was watching some cheesey Saturday morning cartoon; stupid, yes, but entertaining in a "oooh look there's really big dragons and explosive magic" kind of way. There's a side to Warcraft that is about drama and characters but there's also a goofy, colorful angle of "hey, I just want to watch that guy make that tree explode and hear elves talk about nonsense". It's not something I would write, but I can see how someone like Knaak would arrive there and why there are WoW fans out there who enjoy reading it.I'm definitely checking out this latest book though. As long as it feels more like a concise narrative than a collection of lore pieces.
10-18-2010 @ 10:57PM
@ maymerHoly crap man, I damned near soiled myself. LOL we need a /1. Local post at least for this week.
10-19-2010 @ 12:29AM
Thus far the worst WoW writer I have come across is DiCandido. Cycle of Hatred was not only a bad WoW book, but a bad book in any standard.
10-19-2010 @ 5:10AM
Sadly still haven't read WotA fully yet, but I recently read Night of the Dragon and am currently reading Stormrage, just at the part where Thura's purpose was revealed, and well, especially that confirms what I always heard about Knaak, cheesy dialogue, and characters that appear to be omni-potent, until the story specifications given by Blizzard require them to make a mistake, so that they don't just rofl-stomp every powerful evil guy.
10-19-2010 @ 9:09AM
@DavidActually it wasn't Knaak who wrote the book where Khadgar "oneshotted" Deathwing. Golden did. Together with Rosenberg I believe it was.
10-19-2010 @ 10:43AM
@Maymer:Your Knaack impersonation is so far off-base it's not even funny; you didn't use the word "orbs" even once!
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