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10-19-2010 @ 12:56AM
Roasterz said...
Knaak and golden are both decent. I think all of these books need a more diverse editing team to challenge the writers to go outside the box little bit. As for some of those earlier books? (tides of darkness, darkportal) They are are terrible.
As for the writers knaak is plot and event driven and younger. Golden is character driven and a only smidge more mature. This is where their talents are as writers. Stormrage was fun but didnt try to be dangerous. Golden likes to somewhat play with her characters being "Human", I.e. having sexual desires, bieng insecure or mentally unstable like Varian Wrynn, king of Stormwind, Duke of the Elwynn, Count of Everstill, High Farmhand of Westfall and lord Ireland. KnaaK introduced characters that push the story forward and establish believable conflict with in the social sphere of that world. He could've had alot more fun. Broll and tyrande could have had a brief affair or something. THAT would have been great! Or allowed shandris to travel with broll and they could have had a little thing. i bet she'd turn out to be a little to clingy.
As far as the over powered characters that knaak creates? Blame ghostcrawler for not rebalancing... But seriously, I have no problem with this. the universe needs to be constantly expaning, redefining and evolving its lore. Everyone blames him for rhonin, but metzen has the final word yes? All of the events, the time traveling, freeing of alexstaza, awakening of stormrage, Broxigars death fit into the world he to created and continues to act as dramaturge for.
Lucan foxblood was an odd creation, though i didnt find him irritating. and for a moment was wondering if there would be human druids. Thura was fantastic! A female Orc with outstanding lineage? A possible challenger to garrosh hellscream? mmm, interesting.
Knaak is good comic writer. Golden touches those things we can relate to, but in the end its still g-rated.
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10-18-2010 @ 11:17PM
ioncat said...
This.
10-18-2010 @ 11:37PM
roseclown said...
The problem I have with Knaack is that his story is more plot and less character.
To put it simply: As a writer, the one thing you are taught is to know your characters and to let them drive the plot. Plot, in it's nature, is driven by character. Not the other way around. A character's desires (such as saving the world) conflict with another's desire (ie, destroying it) and this is how plot is born. The actions of the characters then are supposed to define the story.
So the fact that Golden does this shows not just a smidgen of maturity as a writer, but a avalanche of it. Because that is one of the lessons that every professor drove into my head on what plot and writing is.
10-19-2010 @ 12:57AM
Roasterz said...
@roseclown
I hope a i am replying correctly.
Very well said. I agree with you. A Characters desires and actions do define and drive a plot. I believe knaak attempts this, but doesnt take the time stay with certain moments or just focues on the wrong ones, or cites general information about past events in exchange for emotional development. In Stormrage, a very short Mother/ daughter-ish interchange between Tyrande and Shandris Feathermoon was unearned.
Golden Takes more time with moments and gives her characters room to live. She's a bit more patient about getting to the next movement of the story. Im reminded of the picnic with arthas throwing a showball at jaina.
As for Maturity? You're right to call me out on that becuase i wasnt clear i guess. I just want these stories to get more emotionally dirty, and dangerous and grown up. I think they try to be. But even with Golden it feels a wee bit general. I look forward to reading the this new one, though.
10-19-2010 @ 5:49AM
Kylenne said...
I defy you to read the Sunwell Trilogy and start talking about "believable conflict".
Seriously, are we even talking about the same writer, here?