Gold Capped: Manage your crafting with a queuing addon

If you are a crafter and you sell your items on the AH, chances are you've realized exactly how much time crafting can take. Obviously, a portion of the total crafting time is going to be spent actually crafting; however, not all of it is. A large portion of your time might be spend poring over the AH searching for prices on your finished goods and taking notes, as well as buying materials from the AH and vendors. There are addon solutions to this, and we're going to talk about a way to address the biggest time sinks involved in crafting: queuing and price management.
The Quick Auctions spinoffs
Zeroauctions and Auction Profit Master (hereafter referred to as ZA and APM) are both forks of the original glyph workhorse, Quick Auctions, which is dead and not coming back. They both do about the same thing, and they can both be used to help reduce the amount of time you spend crafting.

When they're installed, you'll see a button on your auctions tab called Summary. Click this, select your market, then click Get Data. This will not scan the whole AH like Auctioneer does, but it scans the market that you're working on. I'll use glyphs as my example, because as much as I hate circling back to the glyphs market all the time, it really does present the largest logistical challenge and everything you learn doing glyphs will be valid for your other markets. You can follow along with whatever market you're in, though.


Now that you have all your mats, click (once!) on the item at the top of the list, and it will start crafting. If you put in a quantity of 10, it will craft 10.
The advantages of automation
Here's what I used to do when I logged into my jewelcrafter to manually manage my crafting:
- manually search for all the cuts I could do
- remember the ones I wanted to cut
- figure out the cheapest way to get the mats needed and buy them
- forget the cuts I wanted to make
- look back in the AH to remind myself of the cuts I wanted to craft
- open a spreadsheet or notepad for "next time"
- craft all my goods
- realize I made several errors
- curse any errors that were unrecoverable
- buy more mats to fix the recoverable errors
- use QA or Auctioneer to mass-post my auctions
- get undercut immediately
Auto-mailing makes it easy
I'm saving the process of selling with these addons for another post because it's a little over my word limit. I'd like to draw your attention to the "auto-mail" option, though. Assuming you have groups already set up, you can set certain alts to be the recipients of those groups (or individual ungrouped items) and have any character auto-mail them by checking the "auto-mail" box. I use this to send all my herbs to my scribe, all my glyphs to my posting alts, all my raw gems to my jewelcrafter and all my enchanting mats to my enchanter. The few times I want to mail something to another character (if I want to smelt instead of prospect ore, for example), I simply uncheck "auto-mail" and send it manually.
This feature will be very handy for me in Cataclysm when I start crafting for disenchantment again. I used to have to check back every 5 to 10 minutes while crafting greens and blues to empty out my bags. Now, I'll just craft them in front of the mailbox with auto-mail checked.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
sigiel Oct 21st 2010 10:34AM
You got all wrong,
As you say it's down to blizzard appreciation.
If you take the ula verbatim then multiboxing will be banned, yet multi boxing is allowed.
What blizzard do not want is bot type behavior.
This type of addon style need a player to "play" and click at thing to use.
What I like is also your selective editing of blizzard quote to suite your purpose, as if you did quote in it's complete form it will definitely prove you wrong.
And yet you can click 10 time shadows bolt in the row that is call spamming a spell I do it all the time as well as probably millions of other player, and the GCD is there to prevent abuse of it.
What is not allows is to use timer to time the shadows bolt.
Even vanilla UI allows the queuing of crafting...
So really what else can you base you view point on ?
Nothing . You are ultimately wrong on this issues.
But it require some sort of humility to admit you where wrong, and I suspect you lack such character trait.
Aaron Oct 21st 2010 1:34PM
Blizzard has had blue posts stating they aren't sure what they want to do with multi-boxers yet. It's something they are aware of it's just not high priority.
wutsconflag Oct 21st 2010 1:58PM
Again with a complaint about multi-boxers.
It seems pretty simple, actually. They're multiple paying accounts, and they are controlling each of their characters. They don't break the TOS according to Blizzard to date. I don't foresee Blizzard stopping them any time soon.
Nyold Oct 21st 2010 10:43AM
I have a question specifically about the glyph market and using this addon. It doesn't seem to assume we already have the mats, right? (So even if we have no herbs in our bags, it still scans the prices of herbs and calculates possible profits).
Now, if we do decide to create glyph A, for example, there are a few things I need to do first:
1. Buy herbs that are in that same tier. There might be 4 or 5 different herbs that fit the criteria, and they must be bought in multiples of 5.
2. Mill the herbs
3. Start the crafting process.
1 is fine, because I don't trust addons enough to do it, and finding bargains is always exciting, so I'm actually happy to do this step. But step 2 is not fun at all. From what I've read, the addon doesn't seem to help with 1 and 2. Is this true or am I missing something?
matt Oct 21st 2010 11:05AM
Nope, there is no way to automate your milling, its just plain old dirty work. Here is what I do to make it go as fast as possible. Turn on auto loot, if it is not already enabled in your interface options and key-bind mill. Press you mill button and click a stack of herbs, once your GCD has expired press mill again, this should "blue" your pointer. once the mill cast has ended, click a different stack of herbs.
The goal is to get your pointer "blue" before the loot window opens to avoid the "you are busy looting error". Also while the loot window is open the herb stack will be grayed out and not available for further milling, which is why you need to select a different stack.
This method will keep your milling cast up with very little downtime. Have fun... just kidding milling is never fun.
Spark Oct 21st 2010 1:51PM
Two more tips for milling; YMMV. Use Enchantrix and the auto disenchant option which will pop up a window asking if you want to mill herbs whenever a 5-stack (or combination thereof) of herbs shows up in your bags. Use Panda which offers not only a simple click interface for milling / crafting but also a general mill-the-first-5-herbs-you-can-find one-click button. Both will still involve multiple rounds of clicking to grind down your stacks of herbs. But they reduce the action to a single click per round of milling and limit the inventory hunting required.
Eyhk Oct 21st 2010 5:14PM
Panda user here, but some of my addons are not auto-looting correctly and its weird.
Also, if you have a stack of 4 or less before a stack of more herbs, it will give you an error saying you need more than 5 herbs to mill. You just have to rearrange your stack so that all of the full stacks come before the one that has less. Same thing with a stack of 2 and a separate stack of three, you need to combine them to one-click mill them in Panda.
Apart from those issues, Panda is great for milling, de-ing, or prospecting.
Hagu Oct 22nd 2010 12:55PM
I do not think what you describe is the way 99% of the high volume glyph creaters operate. Or at least the scribes that put up most of the thousands of glyphs on the AH.
They do not buy the correct level herbs, they buy the best value and let Jessica fix it
They do not buy in multiple of 5. They buy when the price is right. You post 4 icethorn cheap now it will go ASAP. And they tend to buy in bulk. A moderate glypher might need dozens of stacks a day. And supply is volatile so you buy it up when you can. Over the course of a few days you accumulate herbs. Then you spend some time in an extended milling, then converting pigments to ink, and crafting session.
So the scribe is doing #1 & #2 independent of this addon and prior to making the glyph decision.
But this is a non issue since the glyph market as we know it is going away, with a slight blip for Dec 7 goblin/worgen and some new glyphs.
Amaxe Oct 21st 2010 11:17AM
I'm more of a casual AHer, but I have to admit this piqued my interest. Now that 2 toons with 310% flight has knocked my account flat, I'd be interested in seeing what mats I gather can be worth turning into something more.
Graylo Oct 21st 2010 11:47AM
Have you seen any replacement for the Kevmar Tool Queue addon? I used it to queue my glyphs, but since neither it or skillet have been updated in for ever. I dropped it
Xastur Oct 21st 2010 12:50PM
Kevtool Queue has been updated for the 4.0 patch at curse. While skillet is dead you can still use it with Advanced trade skill window & gnomeworks.
Bullwraith Oct 21st 2010 11:50AM
For milling, prospecting, combining "Crystalized xxx" into "Eternal xxx" and etc I use a little addon called QuestClicks.
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11762-QuestClicks.html
It puts buttons on your screen when you have any of those items. Just click and it mills, prospects etc. It does require a click for each event/stack of course, but I find it easier & more versatile than making macros for all of those thing.
Kar Oct 21st 2010 1:11PM
Perhaps I am overlooking it, but is there a way to use this with professions like tailoring, leatherworking, engineering and blacksmithing? I was very exited about how slick this system seems to be until I couldn't find a way to actually use it in these markets...
Mindaika Oct 21st 2010 1:22PM
Now that Auctioneer is dead, what kind of addon is there to replace, if not the auctioning functionality, at least the viewing/price history/yada yada part of it?
Mindaika Oct 21st 2010 1:23PM
Well, nevermind that. I guess Auctioneer is back up.
wutsconflag Oct 21st 2010 1:59PM
Auctioneer had a "developer preview" version up the day after the patch. It was never even close to "dead" provided a person took a look at the developer's website.
Spark Oct 21st 2010 2:05PM
Keep in mind that this and several other addons with similar functionality have been in play for some time. These are not back-street exploits crafted for the cheater underground; they're out there in the mainstream on major addon sites. If Blizzard had an issue with them, they wouldn't last long.
With that in mind... Blizzard has made changes. QA3 (the basis for the addons highlighted in this article) used to queue up your auctions and post them all with a single mouse-click (according to your pricing specifications). With 4.0.1, that's changed. The addons will queue up auctions but you have to now click to continue with each posting.
Anyone who thinks these addons are going to auto-play the AH for them, they're mistaken. These are management addons that simplify the steps required. But it very much takes a player behind the controls to decide what the market information means and what needs to be done about it. I invite those who think this these addons auto-play the AH for them to jump in to the AH as soon as possible - they often are a great source of cheap materials and stock.
As an aside - I see all manner of misinformation about auction addons in General chat and now apparently here. My initial reaction was to think that people were trying to poison the well and cut out competition with misinformation. But then, I remember all the bogus information we see whenever information security issues (malware, authenticators, etc.) are discussed.
Thundrcrackr Oct 21st 2010 2:08PM
So do we need both these addons or just one? (Zeroauctions and Auction Profit Master)
Which addon performs which task?
Or do they both do the exact same thing?
Spark Oct 21st 2010 2:17PM
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Thundrcrackr Oct 21st 2010 2:08PM
So do we need both these addons or just one? (Zeroauctions and Auction Profit Master)
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Pick one. QuickAuctions died with 4.0.1 and the author decided they weren't going to pursue development. However, they OK'd spin-offs of the project provided that credit was given to QA and picked a new name. Two projects spawned; ZA and APM. As far as I can tell, they're both identical at this point. We'll see how development goes and which fork survives.
Basil Berntsen Oct 21st 2010 7:23PM
Or whether they merge.