BlizzCon 2010: Quests and lore panel highlights

The Quests and Lore panel at BlizzCon 2010 answered some old questions, raised a few new ones and featured some information with heavy implications as to what we may see in future Cataclysm content. The panel, hosted by Alex Afrasiabi and Chris Metzen, was a flat-out Q&A geekfest in which the hosts answered as many questions from the audience as possible in the hour they were given to do so. Check out our liveblog for the full coverage of questions asked and answered, and read on for some of the most surprising moments from the panel.
Please note: The rest of this article contains heavy Cataclysm spoilers. If you wish to avoid any content reveals, veer away now!
Turalyon/Alleria/Outland and the Netherwing
Unfortunately, there were no solid answers as to the fate of Turalyon, the Supreme Commander of the Alliance forces after Anduin Lothar's death, and Alleria Windrunner, his wife and the sister to Sylvanas. The two disappeared for parts unknown through a portal during Beyond the Dark Portal and have yet to be seen since, though their son Arator can be found in Honor Hold in Hellfire Peninsula. According to Metzen and Afrasiabi, the two will not be making an appearance any time soon -- however, the story team does have every intention of covering Turalyon's exploits in "a very epic manner" at some point in the future.
As for Outland, people concerned with the disconnect between leveling through post-Cataclysm content and then presumably going back in time to Outland are just going to have to put up with it, for now. Blizzard would like very much to deal with Outland and the time jump at some point; however, the massive undertaking of revamping all of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor as well as creating new zones (resulting in 3,500 new quests as opposed to Wrath's 1,000) didn't leave them with time to address Outland.
It has been inferred that the Netherwing, on the other hand, will play some sort of important part in upcoming content. The Netherwing are the children of Deathwing, twisted and warped into their current incarnation by the energies of the Twisting Nether at the time of Draenor's explosion. We are starting to see some progress in addressing this connection in the Shadow Wing manga series by Richard Knaak, but as of now, it's barely been addressed in game. The Netherwing have also been used to create the Twilight Dragonflight that plays a big part in Cataclysm, so it's to be expected that we'll see something regarding the Netherwing, their father and their "offspring" in the upcoming expansion.

There was an astonishing amount of information revealed about the current Warchief of the Horde and his successor. For Garrosh, the current conflict seems to be revolving around whether or not he is his father's son, or whether he can "straighten out" and lead the Horde in an appropriate fashion. While opinion on Garrosh is widely varied, Metzen said that he is a contentious character and that it's completely necessary that he be one -- he's the hothead orc that is there to serve as a counterpoint to the thinking orc that is Thrall. He also said that Garrosh is just one part of a much larger storyline, and while he seems one-dimensional at this point, he is much more than what we are currently presented with, and we should not be fixated on the one side of Garrosh that we've seen.
As for Thrall, Metzen had some really good insight into the Warchief, why he's feeling the way he's feeling and why he's stepped down. Thrall is one of those characters who's always been loved and seen as "fleshed out" by the majority of players, but the fact is that the Warchief jumped from being in an internment camp to leading the Horde in virtually no time at all. Metzen suggested that perhaps Thrall really didn't have a chance to grow at all during all of this -- that he was pushed to Warchief before he could ever really determine who he is. This is absolutely a valid point for the character, and while The Shattering addresses some of this, there is apparently much, much more to come. According to Metzen, Thrall is the key player in all of this -- not Garrosh, not Vol'jin, not Cairne, not anyone else currently in the Horde. It all revolves around the blue-eyed chieftain and his journey to Garadar to find his true, inner shaman.
Thrall is one of the few orcs out there who have blue eyes -- a sign of great destiny, much as golden eyes and antlers signify the same among night elves. It's been assumed all these years that Thrall's destiny lay in leading the Horde ... but what if that's not actually the case at all? What if Thrall is part of something much, much larger than this? In response to a question regarding whether or not we would be taking out some of the other dragon Aspects in the same way we took out Malygos, Metzen responded that future patches would introduce story development in which the dragon family would have to get involved, that there would be a big battle, and that "they [the Aspects] will perform the function for which they were created." The specific question posed was "How will the [dragon] family and Thrall pull this [Deathwing's defeat] off?"

What this all boils down to is that Thrall has a very different destiny than anyone had thought. Perhaps the great destiny that Thrall is slated for isn't being Warchief, or even being (as some rumors suggested ages ago) the next Guardian. Perhaps Thrall's destiny is far greater than being a Guardian at all. Some people have voiced concerns over whether or not an orc originating from Draenor could really be an Aspect of Azeroth, but what should be looked at is this: A dragon of Azerothian origin was placed in charge of the earth, and he failed terribly at it. Perhaps part of the reason behind this lies in the fact that Azeroth itself, the planet, has been firmly entwined with the Old Gods. The Tribunal of Ages event in Halls of Stone flat out says that killing the Old Gods would destroy Azeroth, because the two had become so intertwined. Therefore, perhaps the answer to having an Earth Aspect that is unable to be corrupted is to have one whose origins hail from elsewhere but who holds enough love and respect for Azeroth and all creatures on it that he is willing to protect it at all costs. And that makes perfect sense for Thrall.

The other major reveal was the name of the next Old God. N'zoth/Nezzoth/Ni'zoth -- the pronunciation didn't really give us a clear spelling -- is not only the Old God revealed in the expansion, it is also the Old God responsible for the spark that started the Emerald Nightmare. When asked if we would see any Old Gods in Cataclysm, Metzen replied, "You haven't seen who signs Deathwing's paychecks yet." There was also an implication that we, as players, are somewhat responsible for the things we are seeing in Cataclysm. One of the people asking questions at the panel brought up the Tribunal of Ages event, pointing out that despite us players having "killed" two of the Old Gods, "we're not really seeing much calamity happening." The response from Afrasiabi was a succinct, "Have you played any Cataclysm?" followed by a, "You know, where the world blows up? Because of the Old Gods?" from Metzen.
This suggests that much like several other quest chains in game, in which players discover that in doing the heroic thing, they were inadvertently the cause of something much worse, the genesis for the Cataclysm expansion doesn't lie in Deathwing's claws. It has something to do with the destruction of C'thun and Yogg Saron -- that perhaps as we kill the Old Gods, Azeroth itself is protesting.
The other interesting aspect to this (no pun intended) is the link between this new, mysterious Old God and the Emerald Nightmare. There are various theories floating around out there about the connection between the Old Gods and their quest to eradicate the Aspects, including one I posted at the beginning of this year on Shades of Grey and then updated for Cataclysm content here on WoW Insider. The theory itself suggested that each of the presumably five Old Gods was assigned to take out a particular Aspect. C'thun was likely responsible for Nozdormu and the development of the Infinite Dragonflight that seems to have taken it out of the picture. Yogg Saron was likely responsible for Malygos' sudden return to "sanity" -- a sanity that made it choose to try and destroy any mortal who presumed to use magic and led, ultimately, to its death.
That's right, guys: We may have done exactly what Yogg Saron wanted us to do when we offed Malygos. Enjoy your purples!

But then we had Ysera and the Emerald Nightmare. I'd suggested that an Old God was responsible for the Emerald Nightmare, but I couldn't fathom how that would work. And after the release of Stormrage, it seemed as though I was entirely wrong and there was no connection; we were dealing with Xavius and the satyr, not an Old God. However, the revelation that an Old God is responsible for the Nightmare's creation brings all that back into play.
Top this off with the revelation that we will see the Infinite dragonflight in some capacity in future Cataclysm content -- as Metzen said, "It's so badass!" and you have the possibility that we won't just see Deathwing dealt with in Cataclysm, but we will see a resolution to whatever it is that has been plaguing each of the Dragonflights separately for centuries. And that alone makes this potentially one of the most lore-rich expansions yet.
Other tidbits from the panel included mostly minor revelations -- but Afrasiabi and Metzen were very clear about keeping some things a secret. In a response to a question regarding whether or not we'd see Kul Tiras, Afrasiabi replied, "Well we've got to save something. There's some things out there that you'll see -- eventually -- but that time isn't now." Or as Metzen put it, "Man, if you eat all your candy Halloween night, you're gonna get a tummy ache!" In other words, revealing everything all at once might sound like a fun idea, but it would leave us little to ponder for the future -- and way fewer questions to ask next year!
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Kaliata'jin Oct 26th 2010 2:26PM
This may not be the best place to ask but... Is there a time skip in the story from live to the Shattering patch?
Josin Oct 26th 2010 2:26PM
Good wrap up. Explained things a bit more clearly than the simple transcript of the panel. Thanks!
Alexious Oct 26th 2010 2:26PM
To be honest, this Thrall transformation has to the potential to be massively exaggerated and, overall, just laughable. I mean seriously, if there is someone who should do something like that is rather Malfurion Stormrage, also known as the first and most powerful druid of Azeroth, a being existing since millennia, the one who played a decisive role in the War of the Ancients. He already fought Deathwing back then, he knows how to deal with him, he should be the one in charge, not Thrall!
As for the rest, speculating that Thrall, a Shaman from another planet, could become an Aspect of Azeroth is just ridiculous. Aspects are immortal beings empowered by the Titans themselves, they watch over "ephemeral" races from a much higher ground and bring judgement/justice when needed (rarely). Thrall isn't any of that.
Come on, Blizzard...Don't ruin your lore anymore that you already did.
xehn Oct 26th 2010 2:37PM
Thrall was born on Azeroth dude.
Animosis Oct 26th 2010 2:46PM
I wouldn't say they're ruining the lore. From what I can see, it comes off more like Chris Metzen is just making his pet character more and more powerful. Typical Mary-Sue'ing from an author to one of their creations.
I do agree, though, that Malfurion would be a far more logical choice for "Earth Warder". He even has the blessing of Cenarius, a demi-god.
Dives Oct 26th 2010 2:46PM
Except that Malfurion is a druid and Thrall is a shaman. Thrall is more suited to containing and keeping order of the elements.
Plus its not like Malfurion isn't doing anything. He's leading the army of Cenarius in Mount Hyjal.
Scooter Oct 26th 2010 3:03PM
Alexious,
From what I see it sounds like your argument is Thrall is too young to be a viable option. My question is why? Age has no baring on power and who says a Titan has to show up and say "ok your it" just for Thrall to be an Aspect? For that matter who says a Titan won't in fact show up and do just that? If he's fulfilling the roll then hes the bloody aspect. There are several characters right now who could accomplish the very same thing had the circumstances permitted.
Jawn Oct 26th 2010 3:17PM
Keep in mind: no-one said Thrall would ~be~ an aspect. He could be made a "regent" of sorts, until a newly hatched black dragon could be , how shall we say.... raised? groomed for the role? whatever.... prepared for the role as an aspect, with Thrall's help, and some tutelage from him.
It's only us that's asking "Who better than Thrall to take up the Earth Aspect's place?" The answer may very well be: Another black dragon, of course. Or perhaps a Nether Drake.
We'll see.
Drakthorn Oct 26th 2010 3:24PM
"Don't ruin MY OPINON of your lore anymore that you already did."
fixed
Artificial Oct 26th 2010 3:50PM
Malfurion would be a good replacement for Alexstrasza should it become necessary. That would fit with the lore well, the great druid become a new aspect of life. Becoming the new aspect of Earth... just doesn't make much sense, sorry.
Kharon Oct 26th 2010 3:58PM
Malfurion could possibly be a viable Aspect of the Dream if Ysera needed to be replaced, but Thrall is obviously best suited to be the new Earth-Warder.
busuan Oct 26th 2010 4:14PM
I see some Azerothians don't seem to like immigrants.
Pfinferno Oct 26th 2010 5:00PM
THEY TERK ER JERRRRBSS!!!
*ahem*
What I meant to say, echoing many of the other comments, the difference lies in shamanism vs druidism. Shamanism is inherently linked to the earth, the elements, communing and speaking with them and living in harmony with them. Druidism is inherently linked to living creatures and their ethereal essence, understanding them and becoming one with them. Thus, a shaman would be more intrinsically linked with the earth and its state, and so more suited to ward over it.
Stormrage would be great for either Ysera or Alexstrasza, though if he were to take over for the Dragon Queen...well, it would have to be something HUGE for that to happen without a lot of turmoil among the dragons. Who knows, maybe with the aspects fullfilling their purpose, they will abdicate in some form, leaving their roles to heroes of the races of Azeroth. TFH update inc?
StClair Oct 26th 2010 5:19PM
The way I've always seen it:
A druid deals with the things that live ON the mountain.
A shaman talks TO the mountain (and the sky, and the river...)
Crabtarts Oct 27th 2010 12:04AM
maybe trall would get deathwings powers by cutting off his head like highlander
Skarn Oct 27th 2010 12:53AM
Of the two of them, which has felt the world's pain as his own? Not the plants and animals on top of it, but the actual world itself? That would be Malfurion. Back in WC3: The Frozen Throne, while Illidan was trying to destroy the Throne, he was doing severe damage to "the roof of the world." Malfurion physically felt this pain. He is very strongly connected to the entire world, not just the living things on that world. Also, at the end of Stormrage he made a pretty big show of being connected to pretty much everything at once and using the ELEMENTS to destroy Xavius.
I think many of you are downplaying Malfurion's connection to the world. It's not a small thing. That being said, I agree that Malfurion would more naturally be the Aspect of the Dream or of Life than of the Earth.
The interesting thing about Malfurion (and all the elves, actually) is that writers often have a very difficult time writing beings that are thousands of years old. Not a one of us has any experience with that. We really don't know what a 10,000 year old person would be like. Malfurion has had far more experience than Thrall. Thrall is what, 30? 40? Malfurion has been alive and in contact with the world for over 300x longer than Thrall. Think about how much different an 80-year old human is from a 40-year old. A 40 from a 20. A 20 from a 10 or an infant. Malfurion should be so far beyond Thrall and the other short-lived mortals, it's ridiculous. I don't mean to downplay Thrall's accomplishments, I just think we all tend to downplay Malfurion's. And Tyrande's and the rest of the elves and dwarves. Probably because we just don't really understand living that long and how could we anyway? It's just so alien to us.
shadcroly Oct 27th 2010 9:14AM
@ Crabtarts
There can be only one Earthwarder...
arielespadas Oct 27th 2010 3:59PM
In my opinion
Thrall: Aspect of Earth
Malfurion: Aspect of Life
but we are missing a point here. Malygos is dead too... Jaina: Aspect of Magic? discuss...
Brainded Oct 29th 2010 4:44PM
It's already been stated by Metzen that Kalecgos will be taking up the mantle of Aspect of Magic. This was a comment he made at BlizzCON, if I remember correctly.
kalandy44 Oct 26th 2010 2:29PM
It's great to see the interesting results of the Q&A tied up together into one neat package! I'm loving all the speculation and I can't wait to sink my teeth into the expansion. I am especially interested in seeing more of what all the flights are dealing with, especially the Bronze. Not to mention we get to see Kalecgos become an Aspect! "Just in time"