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11-12-2010 @ 8:37AM
Man, where did you guys find these guilds? Every guild I join is full of infantile loot obsessed raider pricks on my server, both sides even.
11-12-2010 @ 8:47AM
Stop looking for a raiding guild that takes itself seriously, no offence intended. Yes you may not do content as quickly or at all but you will get a bunch of people who enjoy the game and treat it as just that, a game. I was making the same mistake, i just wanted a guild to get me into the hm content asap, but eventually i gave up and joined a social guild and now all my toons are on that guild and my main is a king slayer, which is good enough for me :). I would like to note there ARE hardcore guilds out there with genuinely nice people but they are far harder to find and rely on luck and the GM.
11-12-2010 @ 8:49AM
I don't join hardcore raiding guilds for the reasons I stated, I mean where do you FIND social guilds?I can't find any at all on Thrall, my server, I've been actively looking and all the posts and searches are for aspiring raid guilds or raid guilds, which thus far have a few nice people but mostly pricks.
11-12-2010 @ 8:57AM
I've been playing with the same basic group of people since the end of Vanilla/beginning of BC. Even though the guild has changed names.( Our old GM just stopped logging in one day so we reformed.)We are a casual raiding guild, and that has caused some churn over the years as we don't always get as far in the content as other guilds.(Our main 10 man is currently about 2/3 through the LK fight.) But we have a "let anyone who has the gear and wants to try can go" attitude. We use loot rules called "Share the love" which basically is need over greed and if you already got something on that run you go to the back of the line.We have a had a little loot drama in the past but not too much. Some groups have splintered off and started their own guilds as well.Players come and players go and sometimes they come back.That is why we call it "Vicious Cycle". Located on Undermine. If you are looking for a mostly adult, casual raid guild that raids evenings. Come check us out.Otherwise there are good guilds out there.We almost never advertise in Trade, and most good guilds don't. We add members almost exclusively through people that PuG with us or heard about us and come ask to join.
11-12-2010 @ 9:02AM
That sounds like a nice guild.Shame the other main I'm referring to is Alliance.
11-12-2010 @ 9:09AM
I run a casual raiding guild on Lothar. Started it with a few RL friends of mine and started building relationships with people from the ground up. We are all pretty happy with progression even though we aren't all that competitive. But I think what makes us stick around is the people we get to know. Lots of people come though. Some stick around. But throughout it all we remain nice and cordial. In searching for the guild full of nice folks you can start by seeing how long they've been around.Wow that was a bit rambling.
11-12-2010 @ 9:07AM
11-12-2010 @ 9:25AM
Maybe a transfer is in order, one server I've always heard great things about from an Alliance perspective is Proudmoore, any posters from there?
11-12-2010 @ 9:38AM
My main has been in four different guilds, on two different servers, in the last 10 months. One was awful, one was all right and two were incredible. Let me tell you - size of the guild, age of the guild, etc., has nothing to do with it. In order of my membership:The smallest guild was okay. It was started by a friend, and I enjoyed it most of the time. We were all actively leveling, so there was usually somebody around to run dungeons with or help out with quests or professions. At its peak, we had around 100 members. The GM enforced free trade (tips strongly encouraged) among guild members; other than that, things were pretty relaxed. I'd probably have stayed in that guild except that the GM eventually got tired of it and disbanded the guild rather than pass it on to someone else. According to my friend list, he hasn't even logged into WoW in more than 2 months.The largest guild was also the worst - we had over 500 members and almost no control. I joined this guild on the invitation of a friend - the GM of the former guild mentioned above. I left the guild about two weeks later, after a particularly disgusting episode in guild chat that made trade chat look tame by comparison and when it became apparent that the guild leadership either weren't going to do anything about it or were actively participating in it.The next guild that I joined was awesome. We had lots of fun together. While he invited lots of people, the GM also kept a tight rein on funsuckers. I think the record was a person who joined and was kicked again within about 45 seconds. We had over 300 members, though there were a lot of alts in the guild so we typically only had 20-30 players online. The GM based guild ranks on level and behavior, so he pushed me to reach 80 so that I could reach officer level, then he pushed me to gear up so we could run heroics together. I was in this guild from my early 50's to level 80 and beyond. While the guild had a number of well-geared 80's, we never managed to put together any organized raids.Insert break here - I did a realm-transfer because my brother-in-law and sister-in-law had a couple of 70's and 80's on another server and wanted me to join them. At the time, I had a couple of low-level toons on their server, but decided to bring over my main.The guild that I'm in now is at least as good as the one I left during the realm transfer. My brother-in-law's raiding toon is also a member. Unlike my previous guilds, this one actually had an application process, not necessarily to vet raiding skills and experience so much as to act as a gatekeeper to keep out funsuckers. Only a small number of applicants are considered at any time, they are discussed in detail by the officers and go through a probationary period before full guild membership is granted. It's a medium-sized guild, with 300-some members, but it feels very friendly, almost like a family. They do have organized raids - including a number of players with Kingslayer - as well as pick-up dungeons and other fun events going on all the time.So to sum up for the TL;DR, the best guilds that I've been a part of had some level of active GM/officer control. The worst one exhibited all of the problems you mentioned, and mostly for the exact same reason - the officers either didn't have control or wouldn't take control.
11-12-2010 @ 9:45AM
Check us out on Thrall. We have a good mix of casual members and raiders, most being casual. Our raiders enjoy the game and we discourage loot whores mainly because loot whores don't really like the EPGP system we use, and they eventually leave or get booted.Blood-of-tyrants.guildlaunch.comNote: We are primarily an adult guild with a lot of military members, so you have to be able to take a joke and some ragging on each other, as well as typical foul military mouths. We also have a number of couples in the guild.
11-12-2010 @ 2:30PM
@Revrant: I'd suggest watching while you're running random heroics (assuming you're an 80, if not do the same thing with regular random dungeons). If you end up in a group with 2 or 3 folks in the same guild on your server, and they seem pleasant and mature, ask them about joining their guild. They'll likely either point you to a website or at least be able to recommend a good guild to investigate. And don't be put off by a social guild requiring an app. Often that's just a way of seeing what kind of a player you are, and also detering the truely lazy.I'm very lucky to belong to an amazing social guild, filled with really pleasant, fun, drama-aversed and mature players (unfortunately not on your server though - we're on Kirin Tor). Despite having a vibrant and fairly large roster, we don't really advertise. Yet we still get a steady trickle of cool new members, partially from RL referrals, but partially from people we bump into in random runs.
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