Just because you're doing better than everyone in your raid doesn't mean you're actually doing the most DPS you possibly could. Don't act like your shit doesn't stink.

Also...the ellipsis is a tool...not something to be abused.

Dude ok just think about this. EJ says it is not "optimal" to be spell hit capped.

I'm gonna go out on a dangerous limb here and say what I truly feel:

I am in no way bashing EJ, I think they provide a lot of great information, and I am definitely not trying to start an argument. But, not everything they put out is 100% accurate and this is why:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Theorycraft
The information they put out does not include player (especially teammates) mistakes, lag, and any other factors that could mess it up. These factors happen all the time, no matter how good players are, how good their computers are, or how much luck is on their side.

Most of the time, its best to do your own testing to find out what is best for you and your team. Read EJ and other sites to get recommendations and then tweak them to your own playstyle.

EJ Unholy specs do take Virulence.

EJ Frost specs don't because the spell hit doesn't help the overwhelming majority of your damage. That is of course, unless you're taking about AoE fest heroics, but EJ is for high end raiding, not 5 manning.

For Frost raiders, Virulence is NOT optimal as other talents will give you greater DPS point for point.

@Prance - completely agree. Theorycrafters are fun but EJ should just go die in a fire, becauase so many people refer to it as holy canon. It's not, and never will be. The best thing is actual empirical evidence that fortunately is really easy to obtain. Whack things on the training dummy, see what happens. The game isn't all that opaque.

@Sterb I do take Virulence currently on my Frost DK since the inability to access the 2nd tiers or either tree pretty much gives me less incentive to pile on the DPS talents in either tree. Since I use the Howling Blast + glyph, I like the spell hit so my Frost Fever is constantly rolling with Rime procs. More for convenience though.

sherekhan88,

Both Bladed Armor and Epidemic are more worthwhile DPS talents than Virulence and you get enough Rime procs that even an occasional miss won't let FF drop.

sherekhan88,

Both Bladed Armor and Epidemic are more worthwhile DPS talents than Virulence and you get enough Rime procs that even an occasional miss won't let FF drop.