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11-17-2010 @ 7:13PM
One question--I thought that in Cataclysm, CC and strictly focusing on the tank's target were going to be de rigueur, so isn't a strategy of DoT'ing up everything and then tabbing through and slapping everything with constant mind flays to keep SW:P rolling going to be suicidal?
11-17-2010 @ 10:30PM
Use your best judgement; if they are not cc'ing a target, and instead trying to burn down more than one mob, then use your tab dotting. That is how things went for shadow priests before we got mind sear.Also, tab dotting allows you to be more selective than simply mind-searing. One of the reasons that CC died in WotLK (aside from aoe damage trivializing the mobs) was because every one was using so much aoe that it was pointless to even try. When you tab dot, you can be very careful about the targets you hit. Is that guy sheeped? Ok, maybe I shouldn't dot him.
11-17-2010 @ 11:19PM
My point is that everything about Cataclysm instances has been that parties cannot burn down multiple mobs at once, that tanks cannot survive tanking multiple mobs at once and that even if they could, holding threat on multiple mobs would be difficult without all DPS adhering to the one the tank is actively focused on.So, beyond the problems of "DoT'ing a sheep," this advice on how to DPS packs just seems a little surprising, considering everything that's been said about Cataclysm instances. But perhaps that was somewhat exaggerated (either in how people described it or in how I interpreted it).
11-18-2010 @ 1:03AM
Ah, I get you. Well, even though cataclysm content is supposed to be more difficult, I would imagine that there will still be instances when this advice would be helpful. Even back in the day when CC was a must, fighting multiple targets was also do-able (depending on the mobs).
11-18-2010 @ 1:08AM
If your tank can not hold dotted mobs, then he is doing something wrong. Multi-dotting is *not* AoE damage and it should not draw aggro off a tank under normal circumstances.
11-18-2010 @ 1:16AM
The advice was to multi-dot *and* use mind flay on each mob (to refresh SW:P). With AoE threat supposedly being harder, I could see that pulling off tanks in Cata. Of course, if Fox Van Allen is actually doing this in the beta and having no problems, then I guess it's fine. I'm not saying he's wrong (of course, since I haven't tested anything myself in the beta), I just hoped that perhaps he might see my comment and resolve what appears to be (but may not be) advice contradicting what I had read about Cataclysm instances.
11-18-2010 @ 1:05PM
Tanks should be able to hold mobs with SW:P and a MF to refresh it. What will be dangerous (to the dps) is if everyone nuking a different target, because the tank will probably *not* be able to hold aggro on all of them if that is happening.Trying to tank entire pulls and not using CC is supposed to be dangerous to the tank, or the healer's mana, or both. So it makes it kind of amusing that runs where the "gogogo" dps who can't bother to CC because it takes away from their precious dps will actually take longer because the healer will need to drink after almost every pull from the extra healing required by the lack of CC.
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