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11-19-2010 @ 7:52PM
Allright..I spam devastate, use revenge when its up, shield slam too on each cd and proc. I use HS when I get "more rage than I should." I shield block+Shield slam for damage at times. Shockwave too!My gear is ICC 25/ICC25 heroic with slow good "dps" onehander and I have never ever before this at any tier had this much aggro problems. My vengeance stacks are very high too. No, I'm not clicker I actually spam those keybinds too. Heck, I went to EJ and they said that the priority system is pretty much same I use now. Its really embarassing to get 2+ people dead in 10man content because theres simply no threat. I still wonder how our other tanks (that are not warriors) are doing 5 times more threat than our warriors could ever do single target too.Am I just not doing stuff right or is there something I'm missing here? Suggestions welcome =|
11-19-2010 @ 7:56PM
Demoralizing Shout and Thunderclap are a must to reduce incoming damage. In Wrath we didn't really have a need to do shouts, but now we do--all mitigation helps. By that note, Concussive Blow is a huge saver if you can stun an enemy. If you have Gag Order, abuse the fudge out of it on casters. If you feel low on rage, Battle/Commanding shout to get your rage up--you might want to do this on every cool-down if you can, but try to save it for when you need to have rage.
11-19-2010 @ 7:58PM
As for aggro, I would just keep your finger ready to hit Taunt and Challenging Shout when you need to--your rotation isn't lacking, it's a matter of your damage-dealers being a bit too trigger-happy on targets you're not focusing on, or not giving you prep-time."Wait for sunders" is the motto, kids.
11-19-2010 @ 9:47PM
*Pulls out the old sunder/"taunt resisted!" macros*Didn't think I would be dusting those off for a while. God I'm gonna love cata!
11-19-2010 @ 9:59PM
I assume you mean threat problems on trash. What worked for me was to get a 1H dos weapon with a 2.60 speed. I tank trash with that and in icc10 I have more mobs on me than any other tank with me, even if they are better geared. Why? HS and cleave are no longer on the next swing so no point in a fast weapon. Slower weapons hit harder with cleave and rend. A more potent rend with blood and thunder will fix most of your trash tanking aggro woes. Ditto for cleave.
11-19-2010 @ 11:37PM
Vengeance, Vengeance, Vengeance. In Heroic ICC-25, my threat is very low at the start of a pull, compared to what it was prior to 4.0. However, once Vengeance starts stacking, it goes through the roof and stays there. And then, often, it climbs even higher. Once I'm a little bit into an encounter as the boss tank, 20k TPS feels "low" and spikes are frequently above 50k.
11-20-2010 @ 6:22AM
Vigilance has changed, but it's still highly useful. Put it on whoever's grabbing your aggro so you get your taunt refreshed.
11-20-2010 @ 8:20AM
Most of the things I already said on my original post but heres some clarifications."I assume you mean threat problems on trash."-No, I don't. On trash I'm not even tanking anything because blood DK tank is getting all aggro and it seems impossible to me to fight for it. So in sense Im not tanking trash since nothing is hitting me.. when they want 2 warriors to hand all trash I cry inside because I know dps warrior or frost dk ends up tanking the trash for us.I'm talking about bosses.As for the weapon goes I'm using http://www.wowhead.com/item=51941 does it really have to be better than that?"Damage reduce" -Yeah, I do keep demo shout up (since most of time we have icy touch) I know all this damage reduce things and use the tools. Thats not my problem here.Vengeance is as much it can go in ICC on given boss fights (high on festergut, non existant on gunship etc) "Tell them to wait for sunders/tell them to dps target you dps"-I'm sure they do. But the problem here isn't always initial aggro, this happens at any point of the fight. As for "focus on things you tank".. we are talking about single BOSSES here. Even when my vengeance is high as 6-7k ap.
11-20-2010 @ 11:33AM
It's not you, our Icc tank has been saying agro isn't what it used to be, my guess is with patch 4.01 changing the way damage came out and the way agro works for tanks its been an issue across the board. I would assume once everyone gets to 85 it will all become much more manageable, Not so say it will be the old pally style, of a consecration and some ret aura to do the job. But I would think if your on one target doing your rotation you should be able to hold agro. But it could be that dps just has to throttle some. The days of no thinking wow are coming to an end!
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