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11-20-2010 @ 6:04PM
I wish they would introduce a holiday like this for fishing. Imagine being able to level up fishing to 350 as easily as cooking!
11-20-2010 @ 6:48PM
Yes, dear god. Although my wife likes fishing, she can do it while talking on the phone. But it takes forever to level. And you cant do anything in game while you fish. God i hate fishing. But oddly like RL fishing. Which means maybe they are doing it wrong.
11-20-2010 @ 6:55PM
I'm sure there are many people who praise the convenience this provides for levelling cooking, but there are also plenty of people who complained last year.As someone who took time to collect recipes from vendors as I was levelling my main (and subsequently level up my cooking), I do think this is a bit of a cop-out. As someone who is now working on alts, I think this is really nice. I've intentionally been waiting to level my highest alt's cooking skills because I knew this holiday was coming up.Although levelling fishing is a long, slow grind, I think I would have more of a problem with it being made easier. Cooking, with few trivial exceptions, only benefits yourself. Although you are generally left alone while fishing, there are certain notable exceptions where fishing is somewhat competitive, primarily the 2 weekly fishing competitions. It doesn't seem right that someone who levelled their fishing effortlessly through a holiday would be able to compete for the same fishing resources.That said, the fishing daily in Cataclysm is going to make it considerably easier and more profitable to raise your fishing level, so at least you have that to look forward to.
11-20-2010 @ 8:33PM
Guess the 3.3 patch notes passed you by? You can now catch any fish in any zone at fishing level 1 if you fish from pools, including the fish required for the competitions.The only difference skill makes now is when fishing in open water.
11-21-2010 @ 3:45AM
Isn't it great that you can get 350 skill in something that was expensive and / or challenging now with zero determination. Characters shoulkd just be pre-made with 350 cooking skill really. Logically they should have a Bandages Holiday and Fishing Holiday and later they can have a Leatherworking Holiday that saves you farming anything at all, especially Rugged Leather!I'd say that this was inpossible, except I just saw someone click a vendor and get a Dredsteed whereas I remember something like this being needed: 3 x Black Dragonscales, 2 x Elixirs of Shadow Power, 6 x Large Brilliant Shards, 25 x Dark Iron Ore, 1 x Arcanite Bar, 1 Shadowy Potion, Xorothian Stardust, J'eevee's Jar, Black Lodestone, Xorothian Glyphs, 5 man attempts in Scholomance and a massive event in Dire Maul.Yes it was hard and a pain in the ass. Yes, it wasn't a faceroll and it made WoW memorable and cool. And yes, giving away 350 cooking is pathetic.
11-20-2010 @ 10:00PM
Giving away 350 Cooking isn't pathetic. Do you know how many people don't even have Cooking because they don't want to level it? At least this gives them an incentive, and afterwards they can keep leveling it.Do you know how many people have leveled it already on another character, and don't want to start all over again? It makes it nice making it easy, and not another thing you have to grind out on another character.
11-21-2010 @ 12:57AM
I've leveled cooking to max on seven of my eight 80's the old fashioned way. Last year was the first time I benefited from the Pilgrim holiday, and as an altaholic, I was grateful for the opportunity to save a bit of time. Truth be told, maxing out cooking isn't really that hard or time consuming. Fishing is a different story, and I've only been able to get max fishing on 5 toons. It's just long, tedious and mind numbingly boring to level. Yes, I know fishing skill isn't really a big deal now, but for a lot of people, it's the principle of getting to max level, and when you have to do it for the umpteenth time, it starts to wear on you.
11-21-2010 @ 3:43AM
Oh no..I criticized the idea that Easy was Good and got downrated. That always happens in WoW insider of course. Says it all, doesn't it. What people do on alts is not the point. The concept is...A main can walk up and get 350 cooking, certainly 280 cooking, with almost no effort. It is weak to devalue skills by giving them away and I don't see how the fact that 'My alt got them omg cool, it's easy now!' makes this idea any less true. I have many alts as well, hell, i've got every BOA there is, even the Ring, and I think it's a faceroll to stand at an NPC and be given Cooking for nothing.
11-21-2010 @ 3:54AM
Of course this aspect of WoW is easy, i just spent a minute pressing two buttons and got a 251 epic from a holiday boss for nothing...And yes, granting Cooking to any old person for nothing is feeble as well. The fact is, people will always want stuff that is given for free and don't care if it devalues the game. it's like how one of my alts could get a full set of pvp-pve-crafted epics the first day at 80 - which obviously devalues the idea of Epic. And yes, i remember when a Dreadsteed was awesome. Don't be depressed if people downrate any criticism of their nice easy 'skills' it's just how the game's gone: everyone is a God and they don't like it if you suggest they aren't.
11-21-2010 @ 4:47AM
@kingerz: I doubt anyone downrated you for criticizing the idea that easy is good. What they're downrating you for is the ridiculously absurd statement you made that cooking "was expensive and / or challenging". It has never been either, and making it easy to achieve quickly during a holiday is just a nice little benefit. It does not devalue something that was once valuable or difficult. It's cooking for crying out loud. It's always been a trivial skill that requires nothing more than cooking up a few easy to obtain ingredients before a fire. You can't trivialize something if it's already trivial to begin with.You sound like you're taking it way too seriously. And your general tone was insulting (it's kinda hard to throw around words like "pathetic" without being so). The criticism you claim you were making is something most of us would agree with you on, but as is usually the case, people are *not* generally downvoted for what they say, they're downvoted for the way they say it. And in this case, for the fact that it doesn't really apply in this case.
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