Know Your Lore: Jaina Proudmoore, page 2

It was there in the mountain that she met Warchief Thrall, leader of the supposed "new" Horde. And it was also there that the prophet appeared and asked the two forces to work together. It was also there that Jaina discovered that her instincts from so many years ago weren't wrong, after all -- the leader of the orcs was an honorable and respectful creature. After the human and orc forces encountered the mysterious night elves, the prophet finally revealed himself as Medivh -- son of the woman that Jaina had idolized since she was a young girl. When Medivh implored the night elves, humans and orcs to stand side by side against the Burning Legion, how could she refuse? Doing so would be in direct opposition of everything Jaina stood for.
Perhaps the trip to Kalimdor signaled the beginning of Jaina's freedom; while she was free to study magic in Dalaran, she was still constricted by the formalities of her station and surrounded by people who seemed more inclined to follow popular opinion than make decisions of their own. In Kalimdor it was all up to her, and she blossomed under the harsh conditions of war with the Burning Legion. It was not enough that the strange alliance defeated the Burning Legion; she wanted more than that for her people and more than that for the world she lived in.

Unfortunately, before Jaina could go about saving the world, she had problems from her past to deal with first. The tenuous peace pact she had with the orcs of Durotar threatened to crumble when the orcs suddenly came under attack by human forces. As tensions mounted, Jaina finally realized to her horror where the humans came from.
Daddy was paying her a visit. And he wasn't particularly happy with where his little girl had chosen to stay or her choice in companions. When he finally arrived in Theramore, it was to find Jaina accompanied by Rexxar the half-orc, Rokhan the troll, and a pandaren named Chen Stormsnout. He demanded that they be arrested, but Jaina tried to persuade him otherwise.
Much as with Arthas's mind years before, Jaina soon discovered that words were not enough to change her father's mind either, and she was left with a terrible decision to make: allow her father to continue killing her allies, or allow her allies to take care of her father. One choice would save her father but lead to years of bloody, brutal war; the other would lead to the loss of her father, but years of tentative peace and understanding. One way was good for her people; the other way was good for her.

The next few years were spent trying to keep the shaky peace between human and orc alive, though most of the time, it appeared that only Jaina and Thrall were interested in keeping peace alive. These tensions between the orcs and humans turned out to be the machinations of a demon that had rekindled the Burning Blade clan -- and in the midst of the conflict, Jaina discovered a very familiar woman in a small, unpopulated area on the far side of Mulgore.
It seemed that Magna Aegwynn -- Jaina's idol for all of her younger years -- was not dead as presumed. In fact, she was very much alive and not at all like the books that young Proudmoore had read as a little girl. Aegwynn was doing nothing more than wallowing in her solitude, bitter and angry at herself for every mistake she'd made over the eight centuries she'd been alive. Aegwynn was quick to fill Jaina in on her life's story -- how she had been so stubborn, so self-absorbed that she'd bore the son that brought the orcs to Azeroth simply to spite the Council of Tirisfal.
Duty first. Grief second. Self-pity? Never. Not for Jaina Proudmoore -- never for Jaina Proudmoore."What do you know of responsibility?" Aegwynn cried. "For eight-"
"Yes, I know what you did, Magna, you've told me quite a bit about your failures, your deceits, your lies, your arrogance -- but what you've also reminded me of is that you never once shirked your responsibility as Guardian. Everything you did -- from facing Zmodlor to defying the council to siring Medivh -- was done because you believed in what you did. Regardless of your mistakes, of your defeats, you never once shirked that responsibility. Until now." Proudmoore shook her head. "You asked me what I know of responsibility, and right now I'd say more than you, because you never had to be responsible to anyone save yourself. I have led people into battle, and I have ruled them when the battle was over -- and right now, the people who have trusted me need me, and it may well be because of a demon you were supposed to have killed. I will not see everything we have built here be brought down by your self-pity, Magna."

Perhaps that is Jaina's greatest failing -- open-minded to a fault, she expects the rest of the world to see things her way and assumes that her way is the right way. Despite years of ignoring other's preconceived opinions of the world and forming her own opinions about things, she continually touts her own beliefs as "the right way." And who's to say a world of peace would actually work, in the long run?
But in Wrath of the Lich King, Jaina was suddenly confronted with the specter of her other greatest failing -- Arthas. What Arthas represents is the future Jaina could have had: security, a marriage, a kingdom, the conventional lifestyle of nobility that she had turned away from in favor of studies and adventures. She loved Arthas with all her heart, but in the end, her love wasn't enough. She wasn't good enough for that future: a happily ever after, the sort of happily ever after than any ordinary little girl would die for -- and despite her best efforts to cover it up, despite her bravado and her concern for the welfare of her people, there was a small, selfish corner of Jaina that wished she could have had that future.

When Horde and Alliance collided during the Battle for the Undercity, Jaina went so far as to teleport the Alliance forces out when it became clear that Varian Wrynn was far too angry to do anything but murder Thrall and the remainder of the Horde forces. She could have let the conflict play out, but she didn't, instead choosing to separate the forces for what she deemed in her mind to be "the greater good."
Was she correct to do this? Who knows? The point isn't that she made the choice; the point is that when she made that choice, she was convinced that it was the best for everyone around her.
That's why Varian and Jaina clash so badly -- she's driven by common sense and the need to be right, and he's driven by raw emotion, anger, and the pain of years upon years of grief that began the moment his father was murdered by Garona. In a strange way, though, the two are suited for each other; her sensibility and stubbornness has been shown to curb his temper. And if there's one thing Jaina needs, it's a man who can bring back the side of her that she shoved away when Arthas left her -- the mischievous, fun loving woman who isn't afraid to let her emotions get the better of her every now and again.

For more information on related subjects, please look at these other Know Your Lore entries:
- King Varian Wrynn
- The Council of Tirisfal and the last Guardian
- The Second War
- Current Alliance Politics: The humans
- The Alliance
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 10)
Oteo Nov 21st 2010 9:07PM
@Anne
The phrasing is better, although "If there's anything Jaina needs, it's a pitcher of margaritas" would also work.
As for the rest of your post, I think it just goes to show that video game production is still very much a boys' club.
Kylenne Nov 21st 2010 9:09PM
@Anne: Women have never been portrayed as strong and self-reliant in Warcraft, seriously?
You mean like when Tyrande told her childhood companion and lover of 10,000 years to go piss up a rope and broke his brother out of prison anyway because she made a decision as leader of the Sentinels that Illidan's aid would be be needed in fighting the Legion? Or when Sylvanas outwitted Grand Marshal Garithos and a bunch of dreadlords to seize control of the ruined Capital City?
Wow. Just...wow.
Anne Stickney Nov 21st 2010 9:15PM
@Kylenne You mean the Tyrande they overwrote and completely obliterated from existence in favor of the Tyrande presented in the War of the Ancients trilogy and Stormrage? Because they're very different Tyrandes, and I can assure you that the totally badass one from Warcraft III is a thing of the past. Unfortunately.
Wulfrixx Nov 21st 2010 9:30PM
Let's look at the "they"s that're being tossed around here. 'They' as in the WC3 campaign writing team, which portrayed a number of strong female leads in Tyrande and Sylvanas, or as in Golden, who built a pretty strong character out of Jaina in Arthas, I have no qualms with. But Knaak's treatment of women (in his work that I've read) has really irked me. Especially in Vereesa, and even more in the decimation of the foundation that was Tyrande's character.
razion Nov 21st 2010 9:36PM
Kylenne. Your chill-pills. ... Take them. O _o
Felix_NZ Nov 21st 2010 9:52PM
@ Eli, To be completely misogynistic, A woman can have a woman for companionship, as long as I get to watch :p
Tiarnach Nov 21st 2010 10:02PM
So we can have future generations of Jaina Proudmoores, and so she can raise them to think more like herself than like human society at large. :-)
Also, there is something to be said for Jaina's personality being SO extreme someone needs to check her. I'm gonna go in a limb and say not Varian. His foil is already Anduin. And Thrall is out (see Aggra). Maybe Genn Greymane has some as-yet-unintroduced heir. Who knows. But it seems a shame not to write this woman a mate who doesn't go all postal and try to wreck the world, if for no other reason than I'd hate to imagine a world where someone like Jaina Proudmoore can't find love and happiness after all she's done for every living breathing thing in all of Azeroth.
kpoupart Nov 21st 2010 10:28PM
Both, Jaina and Tyrandal, have had a lot of trouble with their male partners, they should keep each other warm on cold nights (and use a hide made out of Knaak as a blanket).
Elmouth Nov 21st 2010 10:29PM
Oh look, the feminist mafia.
Burn 'em bras and grow 'em body hair!
Kill the evil evil men, kill them all!
Women need men and men need women. because there's nobody loving you personally doesn't mean that fact of life changes. Get over it instead of trolling a very nice story.
Xantenise Nov 21st 2010 11:27PM
I don't know why Felix got downrated, as a woman, I LOL'd.
But then, I think the same way whenever two men get involved.
Funnily enough, the guys stop being so keen when it comes to that... ;)
*Prepares to get downvoted to oblivion*
furrama Nov 21st 2010 11:48PM
IF she got married it had better be to someone who has his crap together. Wrangling a guy or 'fixing' one is just begging for disaster. Varian comes with too much baggage for a stable relationship. I don't want Warcraft getting all weird and Disney.
I was hoping her and Thrall might have a love half orcling sometime, but looks like he's getting hitched. Other than that she'll probably be just fine on her own, though she could probably use a few more close friends.
NielsdeJONG Nov 22nd 2010 1:57AM
What is wrong with having a man?
You don't have to get married ofcourse, but I have a aunt who joined the feminist movement in the 70's. She didn't marry nor had children because she thought it would keep her down, but nowadays she truly regrets it because she pretty much ended up alone and without the experience.
As for Jaina, why should being married destroy all the things she has worked for? For all we know she may well be the one wearing the pants in her relationship with Varian XD
chrissie Nov 22nd 2010 8:05AM
Nothing's wrong with having a man. Or a woman, if it comes to that. The problem is the word 'need', that Jaina can't be mischievous and fun etc. etc. without some man-lovin' in her life. I doubt that that was what was meant, but the phrasing was unfortunate.
Honestly, I feel that what Jaina needs is a friend -- not an ally, not a spouse, just a friend to poke fun of her when she's too serious and bitch with her when she's unhappy and take her out for drinks when the world isn't on the verge of falling apart.
Sarabande Nov 22nd 2010 8:20AM
I used to yell at her at the beginning of HoR (NOT during the combat . . . don't worry . . .) since she sounded kind of wishy-washy. I said used to say things like "Get OVER him already! He's BAD, OK?? You're one of the greatest mages in AZEROTH for God's sake!!" while the male members of the party often do /flirt with her and agree that she should forget Arthas. Rather, she should end up with one of them. :P LOL
Sports72Xtrm Nov 22nd 2010 9:42AM
@ Chrisse
"Nothing's wrong with having a man. Or a woman, if it comes to that. The problem is the word 'need', that Jaina can't be mischievous and fun etc. etc. without some man-lovin' in her life. I doubt that that was what was meant, but the phrasing was unfortunate.
Honestly, I feel that what Jaina needs is a friend -- not an ally, not a spouse, just a friend to poke fun of her when she's too serious and bitch with her when she's unhappy and take her out for drinks when the world isn't on the verge of falling apart."
You know what Jaina needs? A sassy gay friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnvgq8STMGM
ambuscade1234 Nov 22nd 2010 9:56AM
She needs some hairy green loving, it's very lonely at the Throne of Elements for Thrall.
They will have a human/orc baby that will become the new Alliance king.
Grovinofdarkhour Nov 22nd 2010 11:51AM
There's also the possibility that Jaina's feelings are changing, or could change, in a way that would render the entire "need a man" concept entirely obsolete. But I'll get back to that in a sec.
Just as we know Jaina has "the side of her that she shoved away when Arthas left her -- the mischievous, fun loving woman who isn't afraid to let her emotions get the better of her every now and again", I tend to think the same could be said of Tyrande, that some part of her went into seclusion after the realization that in order to free Illidan - which she believed was the right thing to do at the time - she killed several of her own Sentinels to do it. I think that haunts her and it's part of why she has been an ineffectual husk of herself for the duration of WoW.
I am envisioning a plot development where she and Malfurion have a falling out ("All that time in the Nightmare made me realize, we just ain't immortal anymore, baby... and I got to get my PLAYA on") and in her grief, who is there for her? The only other woman of her stature who could understand any of what she's been through. And in a span of mere years, the Human-Night Elf Lesbian Amazon Empire of Kalimdor will rise up and shake the very foundations of all that we think we know about how women are written in WoW.
Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
Kylenne Nov 21st 2010 8:17PM
Varian/Jaina would probably make me angrier than any other plot development in WoW, and that's saying a whole lot considering my feelings on various lore developments over the years (I've nerdraged enough about Kael and Illidan in these comments). I've been fairly disgusted by how Jaina's been portrayed since WC3, as the poster child for Blizzard having no earthly idea how to treat its legacy of strong female characters in WoW. But that particular ship becoming canon would do more to ruin Jaina Proudmoore as a character than any amount of awful writing to date.
I want to see more of the badass Jaina that put the safety and well-being of her people above her personal issues. I want to see more of the Lady of Theramore and less of this sobbing waif who we only ever see in reference to some man (either crying over one, or babysitting one). Jaina would lose what little identity she has left if she were paired up with Varian.
Anteia Nov 21st 2010 9:55PM
Totally agreed on Varian/Jaina. I don't even see how he would be the type of man who would be GOOD For her. She might be a good influence on him, but I have yet to see him really have a 'fun loving' side. That wouldn't inspire her to loosen up. It'd just make her husband AND his maturing son as more responsibilities for her. Her going for Varian would make me lose all respect for her, and since Thrall's decisions have made him slip from favorite character for me, she's currently my favorite. I'd be upset if they wrote her into stupid decisions too.
I HATED the comments of "Look at what happens to the men Jaina dated!" at Blizzcon. I know they were just joking around, but Jaina didn't date Kael'thas and Arthas screwed it up despite the fact that Jaina could have honestly given him a happy future. He became a panicked little boy who turned into an obsessed man who too easily gave himself over to vengeance and cruelty. I don't blame Jaina for crying over him. As Arthas himself mockingly says to Tirion, Arthas was humanity's shining example of the prodigal that could be redeemed. Jaina's realization that Arthas couldn't be saved... and then his eventual death confirming that. Yeah. Even if she was just FRIENDS with the man she'd have a right to sob. That's not a weakness. It's called actually having compassion and caring about another who you were close to. The men in Jaina's life have made their own decisions and often, in spite of them, she has made her own. And that's what makes Jaina a strong character.
In terms of the article, I loved up to the part on Varian. That's where I felt things started getting a little odd. I don't even dislike Varian. I just think he is NOT good or healthy for Jaina. She's already had to deal with immature men who used excuses to avoid things or who tried to mold her. She is the Ruler of Theramore. Not Stormwind's puppy on a leash.
NielsdeJONG Nov 22nd 2010 1:57AM
I have to disagree with that.
Varian may be a hothead, but deep inside he really respects and cares about Jaina. Sure, he has issues, but it's nonesence to see that kind of relationship as something that would keep Jaina down.
Heck, for all we know she may well be the one keeping the pants on in their relationship :)
Sorry to say this Kylenne, but it's absolutely ridiculous to think that she will be "tied down" or that her character will become any less when she is with someone. A marriage is one where both sexes are equall, and in the case of Varian, Tiffin had at least as much influence as he had, because he wanted it that way.
Look, I have an aunt who was with the feminist movement in the 70's, and she purposely decided not to have a family because she felt it would keep her down. Now she is old and resentfull, and she HATES all feminists because she felt that they lied to her by telling her not to have children or get "tied down".
Marriage is not something to downgrade women, heck, in many relationships it's the woman who make most decisions :) It's about standing together and strengthening each other through that! Not the way around.