Agreed... the warlock and Fringe comments made me grin... and grimace... /sigh

Fringe is moving to Fridays?! :( Damn... it was just starting to get good again. Sadly, I think The Good Guys is going to be done after December 10th, which is a shame. It's a great, kitsch-y show. (And it's great to see what excuse they're going to use to put Jenny Wade in something to show off her body each week.)

Dollhouse, Life, Good Guys, Pushing Daisies and now Fringe... all shows that died too soon.

Fox nerfs all the good shows :(

Curse the brain-dead execs at Fox for killing yet another good show. /shakes fist

The show always on Fox, "Nerf Actually".

Peter: Everybody, I got bad news - we've been cancelled.

Olivia: Oh, no. Peter, how can they do that?

Peter: Well, unfortunately, Olivia, there's just no more room on the schedule. We just gotta accept the fact that Fox has to make room for terrific shows like:
Dark Angel, Titus, Undeclared, Action, That 80's Show, Wonderfalls, Fastlane, Andy, Richter Controls The Universe, Skin, Girls Club, Cracking Up, The Pits, Firefly, Get Real, Freaky Links, Wanda At Large, Costello, The Lone Gunmen, A Minute With Stan Hooper, Normal,Ohio, Pasadena, Harsh Realm, Keen Eddie, The Street, American Embassy, Cedric The Entertainer, The Tick, Louie, and Greg The Bunny.

Olivia: Is there no hope?

Peter: Well, I suppose if ALL those shows go down the tubes we might have a shot.

I think that Fox puts shows on Friday to try and get people to watch TV on Friday. I've lost count of the number of shows that Fox has put the kibosh on that I enjoyed:

Firefly
Dollhouse
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles (after the cliffhanger of all cliffhangers no less!)
Millennium

Ok, so only four come to mind immediately ... but I'm sure there are more that I'm just not remembering.

Fox, like any for-profit corporation, has to pander to the masses to get the most eyeballs.

Sadly, these days, the masses are idiots. Therefore, the best shows are rarely the most popular shows.

A more intelligent populace equals better programming. Fund education now.

@Prances in Underpantss

But other-dimension Olivia would never say that! she would be laughing inside, waiting for Fringe to be destroyed!! She must be a Twiligh Cultist or something.

I love Fringe, I hope this doesn't have any consecuences for the show :(

The program that nullifies your theory is one that started on Friday nights .. X Files.

Exception that proves the rule? Perhaps. 'Millennium' was good but I think Chris Carter was getting burned out and wanted to move to movies.

@trefpoid

Actually, other-dimension Olivia would have to say that so she isn't suspected of being other-dimension Olivia. But she would still be laughing inside.

@Verine

Good point. Let's hope Fringe can stay for many more seasons on Friday night. There's nothing else on Friday night anyway.

I really hated that Terminator show, as a long time fan of the franchise.

@Prances in Underpantss Don't mention Andy, it's...it's too soon.

Too soon.

Xfiles was also moved from Tuesdays to Fridays. Granted this was during the last few seasons when the show was dying off anyways because of Mulder leaving the show but still. /endgeek

I can't believe no one has mentioned Arrested Development yet ... that was the greatest travesty Fox committed (well, maybe Firefly is up there too; at least AD got three seasons).

And Good Guys hasn't been actually canceled yet, they just haven't ordered new episodes. I'm still holding out (probably futile) hope.

First,

Given the viewership data for Fringe, I am not sure that the move to Friday will kill the show anymore than competing with CSI, et al on Thursdays currently. After all, Fringe viewership numbers have an abnormally large percentage of DVR recordings.

Second, responding to Grovinofdarkhour, viewers aren't necessarily dumb or uneducated. Think about the change in the governing dynamic of television viewership over the past few years and you will see the ridiculousness in your comment. Drama shows are now facing a double crunch: reality t.v. shows are dirt cheap to produce by comparison so they don't need large viewerships to be profitable and conversely, due to the rise in DVR usage, advertising dollars are beginning to dry up. In other words, like nearly everything else, this is a purely economic decision having nothing to do with stupid viewers or some conspiracy at FOX to destroy "good" shows. Also, remember that a "good" show to a viewer is purely aesthetic whereas a "good" show to a company is a profitable one. Can one show be both? Sure, but don't let your personal aesthetic blind you to reality.

Well, it's only moving to Friday in this universe. In the other universe, it's still on Thursday. The only problem is I think in the other universe I'm stuck in amber whilst crapping on a toilet somewhere...and being Observed...

Grovin: "Fox, like any for-profit corporation, has to pander to the masses to get the most eyeballs. Sadly, these days, the masses are idiots. Therefore, the best shows are rarely the most popular shows."

Two and a Half men. Ninth Season.

Turn away while you weep, so as not to short out your keyboard.

Well yeah, because it's a great show, and I see that you did correctly include my word "rarely" in the quote.

What did I do to get on YOUR itchy side?

@Kriegle

"Another criticism of the measuring system itself is that it fails the most important criteria of a sample: it is not random in the statistical sense of the word. Only a small fraction of the population is selected and only those that actually accept are used as the sample size. There are only 25,000 total American households that participate in the Nielsen daily metered system.[11] The number of U.S. television households as of 2009 is 114,500,000.[12] As a result, the total number of Nielsen homes only amounts to 0.02183% of the total American television households, meaning that 99.97817% of American households have no input at all into what is actually being watched. Compounding matters is the fact that of the sample data that is collected, advertisers will not pay for time shifted (recorded for replay at a different time) programs [13] rendering the 'raw' numbers useless. In many local areas, the difference between a rating that keeps a show on the air and one that will cancel it is so small as to be statistically insignificant, and yet the show that just happens to get the higher rating will survive.[14] As the possible choices increase so does the margin of error resulting from the sampling sizes being too small.[15]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings

Nielsen is the problem along with those 25,000 houses full of braindead mouth-breathers.