Drama Mamas: Breakup drama
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Hi there, Drama Mamas,
I'm writing today because I really don't know the best way to handle this situation. My ex has recently started playing WoW again, and returned to the server and faction we were playing together. Now, he had quit for a fairly good time, so I returned to the server where I had friends -- IRL and in game. I had assumed that because the break up was fairly nasty (with me finding out he had cheated on me and spread lies about me), that he would follow the deal we had made and not return to the server. The deal was: wherever we knew one of us would be, the other would not be. Obviously I would return to the server, and I fully expected him to start playing another server so we would stay out of each other's hair. When confronted, he told me that he would transfer if I payed for it and then ignored me.
I have ignored all of his toons (that i could remember) to prevent us from getting into randoms together. I am, however, worried about raiding. We both PUG-raid fairly often and I'm afraid that we may end up in the same ICC, in the same vent channel, and because of my extreme negative feelings for him I will snap. I don't know what to do here. I don't want to leave the server where so many of my friends are, but I also don't want him to interfere with my gameplay. I play WoW to have a break form real life for a minute; I don't want to drag that drama here.
Help!
Broken Up
Earlier this year, we talked about guild custody after a divorce. If you end up being in the same raid with him, some of that advice may help you. But whether that happens or not, there is something that you need to accept:
You cannot fix/control/change your ex.
I think you know that already. But just as you thought he would stay away from your realm and faction, paying for him to transfer won't guarantee that he'll keep that agreement either. And there's nothing you can do to change where he plays or how he treats you or what he tells others. So you need to decide:
Are you willing to risk ending up in the same raid with him?
- Yes: If you don't talk or refer to him and don't react to anything he says or does, then you may still be able to enjoy raiding alongside him after a while -- as long as he doesn't purposely try to provoke you further. You have successfully removed all other contact with him, so you just need to decide if you can deal with it.
- No: Then you either need to stop PUG raiding or move realms, because you are the only person whose actions you can control. It sounds to me like he is purposely trying to provoke you. Just like comment trolls, if you ignore and avoid him, he'll lose interest after a while. So I think moving servers is actually too extreme. With patience, just avoiding PUG raids for a while should keep your play time drama-free.
If you do end up in the same group as your ex and he starts giving you the business, you'll need to re-evaluate the situation. If he's just making the odd, offhand remark and being a little butthead about things, there's not much you can do about it. Blizzard can't (and shouldn't) legislate every inflection of social interaction; being a butthead is certainly not grounds for official action. It's fairly likely that he'll try to work in some zingers here and there, should your paths cross. Deal with those as you would trolling of any other kind. Keep your head up and stay focused on your own fun.
If his very presence makes you uncomfortable -- well good heavens, it's just a PUG! Get out of there. There'll be plenty more PUGs and still better loot ahead in all of the new content that's ahead in Cataclysm. Don't spend all night grinding your teeth over the fact that he "forced" you to leave a PUG; heck, that group could've ended up to be a completely failed raid group, for all you know. Don't drive yourself crazy painting pictures of "could have" and "should have"; spend your energy playing the way you want to play with the people you want to play with.
The exception: If your ex crosses the line into actions and language that constitute harrassment, then of course then you can pursue an in-game complaint against him.
As much as you'd like to wipe anything to do with your ex completely and cleanly from your world in Azeroth, the fact is, he's still a part of it. You can't simply pretend he doesn't exist. What you can do, though, is determine whether or not you're going to let his very presence sour your enjoyment of the game. To do that, you're going to have to let go of this situation and your need to control it. Your life as a couple is over, and it's time for his influence over your emotions to come to a close, as well.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Unknown Nov 26th 2010 4:08PM
First the guy cheated on you....so why would you ever expect him to abide by some deal to not play on the same server. Grow up and just ignore them. Shit happens move on. If you can't ignore 1 person on a server of thousands then you really need to get some help.
Noyou Nov 26th 2010 4:15PM
as cold as that sounds- that's the bottom line. Ignore and go. I know it's gotta be hard but life is hard sometimes even in wow. There's always hope he decides to move on or quit playing wow :) you just have to fight through it. good luck.
Thanks for the blondie!
Guy Nov 26th 2010 4:57PM
Basically, what they said. You can't do much but "Deal w/ it", and if you find him in a PUG...just don't start drama. Act mature about it, and don't do stuff to start fights.
Iano Nov 26th 2010 4:57PM
I have run a LOT of PuG raids- if you dropped raid upon my invite of someone else, with a quick whisper, "X is my ex-spouse. He cheated on me. I hate his guts," I would totally understand. I would also likely drop him and reinvite you, depending on the circumstances.
In PuGs, you get a LOT of stuff. Quick, one-line explanations are golden, We had a similar situation happen once- except it was, "X used to stalk me. I am deeply uncomfortable raiding with X." We understood immediately- the name-changed toon wasn't immediately recognized at the beginning, so it was the middle of the raid. We understood, however. You just- I mean- it's difficult NOT to understand that stuff, even if you only get one side of the story and such.
Chin up, know that many people out there are good and care (we just stay mostly out of Trade chat and guild debacles), and prepare to jump ship if you need. At least this sometime-PuG leader would understand that.
I know making YOU jump ship isn't fair, but as mentioned, a dirty troll gets pleasure out of irking you- getting the raid leads to dump him makes HIM win. If they do what I might and dump HIM and reinvite you, that's fine, but as the Mamas say, you can only control YOUR reaction and behaviors.
Good Luck, Broken!
Saitenyo Nov 26th 2010 6:57PM
Well said. Unless the ex did something truly horrific (i.e. was abusive) and she's -afraid- to be around him for good reason, then she really needs to grow up and learn to deal with breakups like an adult.
I have been through painful breakups, I understand how much they suck, but she still has no right to try to control what her ex does and where he goes. What he did was wrong, but she needs to show some maturity here too and learn to get on with her life. If she can't handle being on the same server as him, then maybe she should leave the server, because the problem clearly isn't just his.
emobulbasaur Nov 27th 2010 3:18PM
You put him on ignore what else do you want? Seriously grow up and move on.
I've dated girls I've played WOW with, some with nasty break ups, you know what I did? IGNORE move on.
It's just that simple, for every alt they make to contact you, IGNORE move on. 3 simple words.
IGNORE.MOVE.ON
Shinhan Nov 29th 2010 3:19AM
Pretty sure if you join a pug and there is someone you have /ignored, you will get a popup informing you of that, offering you an opportunity to leave the raid. Just dont forget to inform the RL about your reason.
Sinthar Nov 29th 2010 10:22AM
I have a few people who I dislike intensly on my server. One in particular was very nastly to a lady friend of mine (no relationship - we are friends but good ones). When I /w him about it he was very nasty to me too - so I put him on ignore - about 1 month later I pugged a raid, saw he was in it - explained why I refused to raid with him again, apologised and left. In less than 2 mins the RL had disbanded the raid - and put it back together again without the offensive party - we then had a great time - so my advice is to (If you can) stay and try to enjoy the server you enjoy with your friends - and not let him have the satisfaction of chasing you out. If it spoils your enjoyment of the game so much you no longer want to stay, then transfer.
Good luck and I hope you have a great time - and better luck with the next relationship.
Eirik Nov 30th 2010 3:24PM
@Iano: As Sinthar later implied, it's probably better to just say "X and I don't play well together and I have him on /ignore. Sorry, but I must leave." That way, you avoid pushing details on the raid leader that he probably would just as soon not get involved in.
@Shinhan: AFAIK, you can be invited into a group with someone you have on /ignore and no popup is presented to you. That was the case several months ago, anyway. But also, I believe that the LFD tool will not group you with someone you have on your ignore list. I am not as confident of the last, simply because the sheer numbers of possible group matches makes it hard to test.
Magma Nov 26th 2010 4:12PM
"and because of my extreme negative feelings for him I will snap." I'm not sure if you were trying to imply the above sentence only applies if he has a go at you, but to me it read as if you even get grouped together by chance, you're just going to go off on him for no reason.
If this is the case, you need to exercise some restraint and not say something unless he provokes you. Even if you hate each other, you shouldn't have to interact in a raid in any social context.
Ostentaneous Nov 26th 2010 4:20PM
"When confronted, he told me that he would transfer if I payed for it and then ignored me." She's already said that he's ignoring her, so this just sounds like someone that needs to grow up and get over it.
Ostentaneous Nov 26th 2010 4:20PM
"When confronted, he told me that he would transfer if I payed for it and then ignored me." She's already said that he's ignoring her, so this just sounds like someone that needs to grow up and get over it.
Graylo Nov 26th 2010 4:21PM
Two words solve most of Broken Up's problems
Ignore and Mute
1) Ignore: If you put all of his toons on ignore like it sounds you have then you won't get in a random group with him and you won't see any of his comments. If he creates a new toon, put that one on ignore once you find out about it. If he creates several new toons just ot annoy you and get around your ignore. Report him to Blizzard and log of. That is a violation of the rules, and people have been banned for it.
2) Mute: If you join a pug raid and he is in the raid, but you don't want to listen to him on vent, then Mute him. If you didn't know you can mute individual people in vent without muting everyone. I've done this to several people who I find particularly annoying. Chances are he will not be in a position where you have to pay attention to him, and if he is you probably want to leave the group anyway.
All the other problems can be solved by being polite. If mutual friends start to talk about him, tell them you would rather not talk about him and leave channel if necessary. It's really that simple.
Muse Nov 26th 2010 5:12PM
And more importantly, remember to inoculate your friends on the realm against him. If he's spread lies about you before, he'll probably start doing it again. Make sure they know about this so they can handle it appropriately. (but don't use them as go-betweens, just inform them that he's a messy ex so that they know not to listen to him when he starts spreading lies. the absolute best response they can give if he contacts them is to simply not respond at all)
Hëx Nov 27th 2010 5:41PM
I agree totally with the ignore him in game and mute him in vent (plug for Mumble instead!) but I have one more suggestion:
Name change yourself both in game and especially on voice comms. While the Blizzard change costs, it's free to change your preferred Vent handle. That way you don't have to worry about him seeing your name and starting sniping at you immediately vocally.
Sure there are issues with this, can't change your actual voice, etc, but it may help somewhat.
chaos5061 Nov 26th 2010 4:21PM
Isn't the LFD becoming all meshed together? I know battlegroups are. So even if you were to change realms you would still run into him? So I don't see how changing realms would help.
Ice Nov 26th 2010 5:04PM
You can ignore the alts, mains for LFD but the mainpoint here was mostly raids and other pugs.
For this I could simply say..
Join (decent) guild. With cataclysm its pretty much needed to get past even heroics. Pugs suck. You even get perks for doing that and you dont ever have to pug in your life.
Well ok you might have to some heroic dailies but not raiding mostly, 10mans being worth it and all its more people raiding even on small guilds.
Also no need to stress, you can always ask "is x in the raid?" if you are joining and ending up with ex's 6th alt in heroic is one in millions after the wide range queues.
I'm not sure is she in guild or whats up but thats my opinion from what I read.
jfofla Nov 26th 2010 4:23PM
What if we end up in the same ICC pug????
Wow what could you do....hmmm, maybe....LEAVE?
Do people not use any common sense?
Sidda Nov 26th 2010 4:36PM
My first thoughts exactly.
Maybe I'm just old and refuse to let people affect me the way this person does. Sorry, I have bigger fish to catch than small time snails. Grow a pair and let it go, take the high road, be the better person...yada yada
Nynaeve Nov 26th 2010 4:45PM
If a pug contains people you don't like, why not leave? Jflofla is right.