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11-26-2010 @ 6:23PM
With the changes to the Vanilla dungeons characters are getting a taste of triage healing.There are plenty of low level dungeons where healers have 2-3 spells to work with. A few of the bosses do AoE damage and it just isn't possible for most healers to keep up.These are great opportunities for DPS to learn that they might not get a heal. They need to watch out for themselves. On my Tauren pally I frequently spend my holy power on Word of Glory instead of my dps Templar's Verdict. I tend to live while the troll druid next to me is laying on the floor. (Which is really terrible Mr.Kitty#8765231. you have plenty of time when your energy is spent to pop over and rejuv yourself and go back to kitty form).Those utility talents are starting to look pretty good about this time.
11-26-2010 @ 7:32PM
"These are great opportunities for DPS to learn that they might not get a heal."The problem is that in wrath dungeons, it seems like everyone is taking damage, or no one is (except maybe the tank). Meaning, most of the damage that dps is taking is unavoidable (except for obvious things like the frost breath in Utgarde Pinnacle). Also, in lower level dungeons, anyone wearing plate can serve as an off-tank. Once you outgear a place, pretty much anyone can be an off-tank, but this is just what I'm noticing from lower level dungeons.From what I've read, off-tanking as a dps isn't going to happen in cataclysm heroics, not for a while at least. Also, in Wrath, the pre-eminent strategy for most trash and bosses was "Kill it before it can do too much damage to you." I wasn't around for the beginning of wrath when Loken was tough, but from what I've read, the zerg method was the one that was found to be the best. Kill him before a second (or third) lightning nova = win. Combined with a lot of the dps races out there (saurfang, festergut, rotface, putricide, bloodqueen, LK), you have a lot of people trained on tunneling dps abilities.This strategy worked not just in PvE, but also in PvP. (Chase Christian wrote an article about how he switch from doing more CC on his warlock to straight dps, and his 5-man team starting winning more.) I also found this to be true. Since around 3.3.3, I've been hitting BG's as fire mage, and doing nothing but blasting the heck out of everything. Sure, I interrupt spells and will use escape and defensive cooldowns when needed, but other than that, just pure damage. I don't think I've used my polymorph in pvp in the past 6 months.So the bottom line is that I agree with you about dps learning to maybe give up a little dps to take a lot less damage. However, if you're using WoG as ret on yourself, you're probably doing it wrong. A flash of light will heal you for just as much (probably more), and TV hits so hard, you're better off saving your HP for a dps hit, and just heal yourself with FoL. You can probably spare the mana as ret.lol at troll druids though. They're the new huntards/dk's.
11-26-2010 @ 8:40PM
Just going to reply to this saying I love troll druids... and I'm a healer troll druid so I wouldn't be dying due to me doing dps instead of healing myself.
12-02-2010 @ 2:43PM
At the time of writing this comment it was impossible for me to be "doing it wrong" by using word of glory. I was still too low of a level to have flash of light as an option.However, the attitude that Word of Glory should NEVER be used is exactly what needs to be thrown out the window for dps. Yes, it sucks not getting off TV, thing hits like a mad truck.Yes, in most situations a good use of flash of light would be better, especially with higher level gear where haste is involved.However, sometimes you need heals now, right now, or else you are going to die.It is times like these where you will find the dead paladin on the ground who was unwilling to sacrifice their precious dps for a heal.
11-27-2010 @ 8:32AM
@PyromelterThe issue is not exactly mana when healing ones self as a ret pally - but instead that WoG is an instant cast v. a 1.5?? second for FoL that is incredibly expensive. I can afford a 12-18k damage spell, but I can't exactly afford to die because within the time that it took me to react, and to cast, I died because the healer was triage healing and decided to let me go to 20% or something.
11-30-2010 @ 3:30PM
Cata will be a great opportunity for all classes /roles to utilize all of their survivability talents and abilities. I's not only a healer's job to keep the group alive. Other players have to play smart, too. Especially as we're going into the new stuff and getting accustomed to it. As a healer it'll take a couple times to get the feel of the dungeon down as far as what to expect damage-wise from diff. mechanics there.I'm fortunate to be GMing a guild this time around and a ten man full of a bunch of raiders from other guilds I been running with for years. We have scheduled weekly rotations of all ten of us for five mans on raid nights as we lvl together.. off nights will be for professions and other leveling on mains. Ea week we rotate who heals what group and which of the three heals gets to practice their OS; as well as swapping DPS around to get everyone used to having or not having certain class mechanics to work with in certain situations. It's a month-long cycle, then we recycle it and start over till we get to where we can do ten mans. We're all very excited to be running together again in our own group -forging our own destiny!! And here's to all those with doubts or cliques that wouldn't include us in the past for all their arrogance.. "The best REVENGE is massive success!" -F. Sinatra.
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