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12-02-2010 @ 8:37AM
Hulder said...
I'm drifting off into a daydream here... of a dungeon finder tool that not only filters by gear level, but also by, say, how many times you've pulled aggro off the tank in the last 20 dungeons... and whether you kept hitting that mob then, or stopped hitting it and ran to the tank... or feigned death and dropped it on top of the healer... And a dungeon tool that ranks you by how many times you've not used misdirection... or down-ranks you for every "gogogo"...!
-Ahem, ok, back to reality.
Great article as usual, Frost. HOW you manage to stay on top of this amount of complicated and ever-changing information, I do not know but I appreciate you all the more for it!
-Hulder, proud tail-wearing and bow-wielding Draenei
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12-02-2010 @ 10:01AM
Vogie said...
I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with wowhead filters, and everything to do with being a wee bit plastered
12-02-2010 @ 12:45PM
Hrothgar said...
I'm dreaming of a Dungeon Finder that filters tanks by how often they pull before the healer has better than 80% mana, pulls before all the dps is even in the room, stops attacking mobs and just starts running to the next group thus dragging the current group with him inspite of the fact that the healer and some or all of the dps may be casting, phones in the run because they have no queue and never has to wait, blame the dps because they haven't figured out the mechanics of threat generation on their fury warrior that is specced for prot because they don't have to wait in queue as a tank but they will need on off-spec items anyway, goes AFK to order/eat a pizza knowing that the group won't kick because it's so damn hard to get a tank (even a bad tank), consistently demonstrates that just because he's/she's the tank, they behave as if they are the best player in the group when the odds are against them (every time), and complains when people make honest mistakes in blatant disregard of the dozens of mistakes they just made.
The filter should parse these items and put the tank that has the fewest of these flaws at the top of the available tank roster in the lookup table.
Ahem, back to reality...
hahahahaahahahahahah, whew, never happen.
12-02-2010 @ 1:40PM
Undomiel said...
Oh My Gosh Hrothgar!!!
have you been inside my head? This is the most true and best comment on wow insider ever...and I mean ever. Having myself levelled a few dps and healer via the dungeon finder tool I can safely say that bad tanks are the absolute worst thing about it.
Especially as a healer you really start to hate these guys...cause you know were getting the blame when the group can't survive the pally "tank" in ret spec and gear pulling 30% of an entire instance. Of as dps you hate them equally much for making you leveling soo much longer.
In my latest experience I can say that I reached the ignore cap around lvl75 on my disc priest. And that ignore list is filled with 96% bad, awful, ignorant, pseudo tanks with egos so inflated they learned flying at lvl 1.
On my good days I have often tried to help them out by explaining a few of the very simple basic rules of tanking...but so many times they will reply with pure un-watered down hatred and bile that I finally came to terms with the fact that it simply isn't worth my trouble.
Oh and don't give me any crap about not knowing what tanking is like...I've tanked every bloody thing up to and including Arthas. And the simple fact remains: tanking is damn easy... It can be stressful it can be demanding but it is not overly complicated.
What Blizzard should do is impose a speck check. So you cant que as tank if you don't have a tank spec. In addition you should not get a dungeon CD if you leave a group after the tank has left...Oh and they should put some tank recommendations in the login screen, like say: as a tank, your role is to PROTECT your group - not to boss them around. And perhaps: as a tank remember you are not invinsible: you need a healer with a manabar that is not close to empty when you pull....There are others but atleast this would be a start
12-09-2010 @ 7:48PM
Shorten said...
This sort of hostility is the only reason there are so few tanks. Grow up, make a tank and do it better. Really.
A major part of tanking disappointment derives from the fact that 4 people in the party expect 4 different kinds of tanking. The only thing they agree on is that they are entitled to a free-ride with a tank that outgears the place. For each one that expects a zerg-machine, another expects time to pick loot from every mob and cute joke now and then.
Of course imposters must be put off immediatly. The tank is just another player. And one that willingly accepted a pivotal role. However keep in mind that more often than not, you'll be queued with people no better than you, some of which are just learning the ropes.