but mag'har was not a part of the old horde, as stated in this article. garrosh's impression of the horde was based solely on the old horde's way of doing things. when he was taken to azeroth, he most likely expected the horde to act much like the horde that he knew. he had no idea the horde had changed so much.

Some of the quests for the Mag'har involve going around killing Ogres to prove that you don't mess with Orcs.

Even the shaman of the Orc clans were warriors and all the clans fought against one another and the Ogres or other sentient beings for their place in the world. The only species on that planet that tried to live peacefully were the Space Goats and the Snowflakes. Neither of them was native to the place.

Compare this to Azeroth:
Throggs: attacked anything else that breathed.
Dwaves: War of the 3 Hammers.
Humans: How many civil wars?
Tauren and Centaur wars.
Night Elves (okay they didn't so much fight other races as almost kill the world a lot...)
Troll wars.
Silithid warring on everything.
High(Blood) Elf and Troll Wars.
Naga, Murlocs, Gorlocks, Wolvar, Taunka, Tuskarr, Vyrkul all have fought for a long time.

Aside from Gomes, pretty much every race on Azeroth has a long history of fighting someone else, themselves, or both.

The Mag'har are the noble and uncorrupted Orcs. They don't have the taint of the demonic. They fight, die, and wage war just as all other races do. (Except Gnomes)

Well, it's world of WARcraft after all.
I don't know how many would subscribe it when it becomes world of PEACEcraft.

I really get sick and tired of seeing that "Well it's world of WARcraft" line over and over again.

I feel your pain, mon.
Do you know how tired I was very time I saw people debating war is good/bad in world of WARcraft?

WARcraft.. how about finishing the word? Craft, implying planning and skill. As opposed to Garrosh running around trying to punch everything.

As someone who actually remembers that Warcraft 3 resolved the Human/Orc strife to a degree, I get a little sick of FPS babies focusing on one syllable and wanting the story thrown out for more PvP.

Other people can do what they wish, but IMO, it's really WarCRAFT.

AH battles are really what the game's about.

"Even the shaman of the Orc clans were warriors and all the clans fought against one another and the Ogres or other sentient beings for their place in the world."

Uh, no. The orc clans were at peace, and had been for hundreds of years. While it's clear that they had a history of war, it's clearly shown in Rise of the Horde that the orcish clans gave each other a wide berth in order to prevent conflict from breaking out.

The ogres were brutal marauders, enslaved by the Gronn, and were responsible for killing many orcs. They were enemies, essentially at war.

The orcs, by and large, lived at peace with nature. They had a semi-nomadic hunter-gatherer society. They were even at peace with the draenei until Kil'jaeden the Deceiver showed up, seeking to ruin Velen and the rest of the exiles by appearing to the orcs under the guise of their ancestors.

Al, I can't rate you up high enough.

It's not Garrosh's violent tendencies that I dislike. Even Thrall himself, bastion of cooperation and allying with the humans, is a warrior. A warchief. He fights, he kills, he battles. His Doomhammer is as stained as any orc's. Yet, he does so after careful planning and deliberation. He does not wade facefirst into battle without thought as Garrosh seems so fond of doing.

It's not really that I dislike Garrosh (though I do dislike Garrosh). It's his immaturity, his lack of forethought, his brash and brutal nature that I dislike. He seems more fit for a rank-and-file orc warrior, not a Warchief. Not one I should be taking orders from.

He's young. He's inexperienced, due to his history in Nagrand. Thrall was also young and inexperienced when he was given the title, yet Garrosh has shown time and time again that he is not yet responsible enough to bear the burden of the lives of all of the Horde. Whereas Thrall was their salvation.

Garrosh makes a great side character, especially when viewed from the angle shown in this article, but warchief? No, thanks.