Insider Trader: Jewelcrafting in the first week of Cataclysm
Insider Trader is a column about professions by Basil "Euripides" Berntsen, who also writes Gold Capped about how to make money using the auction house. Email Basil your questions.
Jewelcrafting in Cataclysm remains one of the most interesting professions in the game, providing resources that everyone needs, as well as offering one of the most flexible (and thereby most appealing to min-maxers) personal performance perks of any profession. Let's take a tour around the profession window, starting with the core ability that everyone thinks of when they think jewelcrafting: gem cutting.
Gem cutting
Take just about any ore, prospect it, and you will get raw gems. Cut these raw gems, and you can add them to sockets in gear, which provide stats. The three prospectable ores in Cataclysm are Obsidium Ore, Elementium Ore, and Pyrite Ore.
Unlike in previous expansions, there is now only one meta gem, the Shadowspirit Diamond. Learning a cut takes four daily tokens, compared to three for the blue-quality cuts, and the the only way I know of to get meta gems is through an alchemist's transmute, again with no cooldown. The real cost is steep, though. Depending on which ore you prospect, you'll need between three and six stacks to make a single transmute, which yields two metas. Your opportunity cost is even higher, however. I can prospect ore day and night on my realm, and while I'll rarely sell a Carnelian, I can't keep Nightstone or Hessonite in stock. The lost profits from not selling these have to be considered but will change from realm to realm.
Procs
The green random enchant pieces you can make will sometimes actually end up blue. These blues are not all that rare, either. I've been seeing them every 10th craft or so. Making items with random stats on them is new, and proccing higher-quality versions of them is also a new mechanic.
Chimera's Eyes
Chimera's Eye is the new JC-only gem. You can buy them with a JC daily quest token, and the cuts also cost JC daily tokens (two, to be specific). There is often a decent market in selling these to other jewelcrafters who may not have the tokens to spare. At this stage, every time you get a daily token and spend it on a recipe of some sort, you have to consider it a loss until you've made back more than the cost of what you'd have made by selling Chimera's Eyes.
Another source of these is the Fire Prism, but it takes too many green gems and has a very low (about one in 10) chance to drop an eye for my tastes. I used prisms for leveling, but it's a fairly expensive point.
And of course, pre-raid gear
One of the rewards for getting to 525 skill is the ability to buy the patterns for some very nice preraid gear. Everyone is going to want these; they're iLvl 346 and well itemized. Unfortunately, the largest component of their cost is based on JC daily quests, so even before you consider the 75 volatiles, these won't come cheap.
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Jewelcrafting in Cataclysm remains one of the most interesting professions in the game, providing resources that everyone needs, as well as offering one of the most flexible (and thereby most appealing to min-maxers) personal performance perks of any profession. Let's take a tour around the profession window, starting with the core ability that everyone thinks of when they think jewelcrafting: gem cutting.
Gem cutting
Take just about any ore, prospect it, and you will get raw gems. Cut these raw gems, and you can add them to sockets in gear, which provide stats. The three prospectable ores in Cataclysm are Obsidium Ore, Elementium Ore, and Pyrite Ore.
- Prospecting Obsidium yields a higher volume of green-quality gems, with a very low chance for blue-quality gems. Looks like a stack of Obsidium will average somewhere in the realm of six green-quality gems per stack and a very small quantity of blue-quality gems.
- Elementium gives a lower yield of green-quality gems but a much higher rate of blue gems than Obsidian -- between four and five green-quality gems per stack, as well as an average of about one blue-quality gem per stack.
- Pyrite hasn't been prospected enough yet to know what the raw gem yield will look like; however, we're reasonably certain that there's a 100 percent chance that it will yield between one and three Volatile Earth for every prospect.
- Alicite can be put into a pendant.
- Carnelian can't be turned into a cheap green; however, it is used for Carnelian Spikes.
- Hessonite is in heavy demand because the crafted green it's used for while leveling goes green at 495.
- Jasper is also used for leveling; however, there's also a JC daily quest that calls for it (even more when you proc an unwanted "perfect" gem).
- Nightstone is another one that's in really heavy demand for leveling, as it goes green at 505.
- Zephyrite can't be turned into a green, but there's a JC daily quest for it as well.
Unlike in previous expansions, there is now only one meta gem, the Shadowspirit Diamond. Learning a cut takes four daily tokens, compared to three for the blue-quality cuts, and the the only way I know of to get meta gems is through an alchemist's transmute, again with no cooldown. The real cost is steep, though. Depending on which ore you prospect, you'll need between three and six stacks to make a single transmute, which yields two metas. Your opportunity cost is even higher, however. I can prospect ore day and night on my realm, and while I'll rarely sell a Carnelian, I can't keep Nightstone or Hessonite in stock. The lost profits from not selling these have to be considered but will change from realm to realm.
Procs
The green random enchant pieces you can make will sometimes actually end up blue. These blues are not all that rare, either. I've been seeing them every 10th craft or so. Making items with random stats on them is new, and proccing higher-quality versions of them is also a new mechanic.
Chimera's Eyes
Chimera's Eye is the new JC-only gem. You can buy them with a JC daily quest token, and the cuts also cost JC daily tokens (two, to be specific). There is often a decent market in selling these to other jewelcrafters who may not have the tokens to spare. At this stage, every time you get a daily token and spend it on a recipe of some sort, you have to consider it a loss until you've made back more than the cost of what you'd have made by selling Chimera's Eyes.
Another source of these is the Fire Prism, but it takes too many green gems and has a very low (about one in 10) chance to drop an eye for my tastes. I used prisms for leveling, but it's a fairly expensive point.
And of course, pre-raid gear
One of the rewards for getting to 525 skill is the ability to buy the patterns for some very nice preraid gear. Everyone is going to want these; they're iLvl 346 and well itemized. Unfortunately, the largest component of their cost is based on JC daily quests, so even before you consider the 75 volatiles, these won't come cheap.
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Reader Comments (Page 2 of 3)
Cyno01 Dec 14th 2010 5:16AM
Absolutely, i dont know about other realms but on mine people (idiots) have been listing cut green gems for less than the vendor price. Easy way to make some quick cash.
Another interesting thing, with the JC dailies, perfect green gems dont count, which is annoying as hell, but makes them super cheap on the AH for certain cuts.
shadowhowl1900 Dec 13th 2010 5:32PM
dont forget the JC trinket bug. world drop, must be less than lvl 85 and above 475 JC. you get these amazing trinkets that are pretty much pre-raid lvl.
disenchanting the crafted JC while lvling
Obeyfez Dec 14th 2010 12:02PM
FYI - they fixed this. As long as you have leveled your JC to 475, the item will drop for you, even if you are level 85. I did this last night on my 85 and got the drop on the 3rd mob kill in Deepholme. It's an awesome trinket, but it's BoP, so you're not going to make any money from it.
Pfooti Dec 13th 2010 5:46PM
Yeah, the Carnelian Spikes, for example are a great way to get pretty cheap intro weapons for (say) a newbie shaman. Depending on the realm, they *might* be a way to get cheap-ish (or at least profitable) enchant mats to boot.
DayDreamer Dec 13th 2010 6:17PM
I hate gemming and player enchants. It's like math homework for me. It's convoluted, and I only do it to reach the end goal and promptly forget everything.
I should know my spec's role, and what stats are important, but I don't what to juggle stats or have lots of decisions with vague results, and I haven't memorized caps. and the complication of involving the auction house.
I wonder if there's an addon that will show me stat caps like a % bar, and a gemming and enchanting addon that works with it to automatically tell me what the best options are in relation to each other. Easy-mode.
Lissanna Dec 14th 2010 10:07AM
Gems aren't that hard. You really just have to find out what goes best in each of your 3 color slots, so you really only need to know the name of up to 4 gems (including meta gem) and then you can search for those names and grab them easily.
DayDreamer Dec 14th 2010 11:37AM
I don't think anyone reads the comments after a day or two, but it's not just "match the color and away you go".
- You have to look up 3 sets of gem colors for each socket color. eg: a blue socket can take blue, green, or purple gems.
- You have to evaluate how long your current equipment will last; and when you decide to gem something that will get replaced, know enough about gems to know which ones are cheap enough to take a hit to stats. I'm guessing it's not just the 2nd highest level.
and like I said, I'm not familiar with my stat caps, so I have to do additional homework not directly related to gems.
WoW has so much stuff in it that it needs an in-game PDA. More than what they have so far. Something to link everything together. There's just too much stuff.
Sleutel Dec 13th 2010 6:42PM
"There is often a decent market in buying, cutting, and selling these [Chimera's Eyes] to other jewelcrafters who may not have the cuts they need."
All JC-only gems are BoP when they're cut. You can sell the raw gems, but you can't sell the cut ones. If you stock up, you'll either have to equip them yourself or vendor them, which is a massive waste of money given that the raw gems are going for 800-1500g a pop.
Basil Berntsen Dec 13th 2010 7:32PM
My bad, I had missed that part. Fixed. I never got any gear worth gemming on my JCer before they introduced a phased recipe vendor.
Picviewer Dec 13th 2010 6:57PM
the cut 3 of a gem as the new daily needs to be tweaked to include perfect cuts that proc. Had 3 nightstones left and the daily for it pops. proceed to cut all and the middle pops as a perfect cut, but won't register as being the required one. so off to waste another stack of ore prospecting for another one.
but on the plus side had a few hessonites so ground out a few rings for a few more points and out pops a blue one that made a nice tanking upgrade for myself
jacksworth Dec 13th 2010 7:48PM
pretty sure the chimaera's eyes only cost one token
jacksworth Dec 13th 2010 7:58PM
also, those crafted blues are just not worth it imo
on my server, chimera's eyes are going for 800+, so thats 3200+
plus a cut blue gem gets 200-300g each, so 800-1200g for those
cheapest volatiles we have are water, at 12g/ea. so another 900g
the elementium is of rather small value, no more than 200g
so you're looking at around 5.5k gold for a blue heroic level ring.
plus whatever the JC wants to charge, which i expect would be a lot, seeing as they skipped buying useful blue cuts to get the pattern.
i'd rather hold onto my 5.5k gold, and just run a few more heroics. they really arent that hard.
Samuel Dec 13th 2010 10:15PM
Correct. But, if you cut three, and one or more end up being perfect, you can get others from the AH to replace those. The perfect ones give you credit for the cutting part but not the turn in part.
Not that you'll probably find any of the (nonperfect) timeless on the AH. However, if you feel th eneed to cut nightstones to level, cut timeless ones, and save the nonperfect ones for the quest.
Quisling Dec 13th 2010 11:06PM
Alright, I have an insider trader question (though it's chanting, not JC related):
On my server, mats for the chants to level around the 490ish range are running about 250g per point. Most chants then are costing me about 250g to make. I figured I'd toss them on scrolls and sell them at 3/4 - 1/2 price to recoup the loss, not really focusing on making specific chants, rather focusing on minimizing cost to me.
But when I examine the auction house on my server, scrolls are going for 2-20g. Honestly, no more.
Why are people undercutting SO heavily, and what do you advise? Buy? Hold? The chants I'm looking at are mostly haste (but there is the nice int to cloak, I'm holding on those, they're actually the only chant selling for more, hovering just under 40g)
HALP
Quisling Dec 13th 2010 11:17PM
I'll dig deeper. I understand the mechanics of a market, and currently the market is swarmed with supply, which makes the prices plummet; but in the same breath, everyone has a TON of gold from questing leveling, so the prices should rise a little.
I know that when demand creeps back up the prices will rise, but will it be enough to hold these chants? How are we to know?
And why are people so stupid to make 30 of a single chant for 6k and post it for 10 when they get little/no level increase after maybe the first 10-15?
QQinsider Dec 13th 2010 11:27PM
Because they have more money than sense. They enchant scrolls to level up and then just chuck them all on the AH, under-cutting the last person that did exactly the same. There is nowhere near enough demand for that many scrolls right now, so the price crashes.
I like people like that, I've made 30k+ DE'ing and selling mats to them in the last week. When dust has fallen to 10g or lower in another week I'll think about skilling up my own enchanting past 475.
Back on topic: the JC patterns can be decent money makers right now, IF you pick a pattern that no-one else has yet. I checked the AH when I got my first 3 tokens, noticed that no-one was selling Deadly Ember Topaz, and so got that one. I've had 3 days now of no competition, selling about 10 of them a day for 200g profit each. At least half the JC's on my server seem to have gone for the obvious red cuts.
Lissanna Dec 14th 2010 10:05AM
You are better off holding onto finished products and waiting for the market to stabilize again.
zakurohitashi Dec 14th 2010 8:01AM
At what level or skill level in JC can I start doing the new JC dailies and where I can find the dailies?
Sorry for asking here but since this article was about JC it makes sense to me to finally ask.
Thanks in advance!
QQinsider Dec 14th 2010 9:06AM
JC dailies are available at 475, from the pattern seller near the trainer in Stormwind.
Lissanna Dec 14th 2010 10:03AM
I got some random drop quests to give me BOP trinkets. Those were the best perk I didn't know about so far. I have two ilevel 246 trinkets with low effort. yay!