Encrypted Text: Pre-raid gear for Cataclysm rogues

Every week, WoW Insider brings you Encrypted Text for assassination, combat and subtlety rogues. Chase Christian will be your guide to the world of shadows every Wednesday. Feel free to email me with any rogue questions you have.
Let's be honest here, rogues don't really need a leveling guide. We simply continue to exist, as we always have, leaving a trail of the dead in our wake. We're trained killing machines who also have the ability to Stealth around to avoid detection. With Recuperate, we never need to stop and eat, and with Deadly Momentum, we never need to stop and Recuperate. Basically, if you want to level your rogue from 80 to 85, just find any new zone and start killing anything in sight.
After questing your way through Cataclysm's new content, you've reached level 85. Unfortunately for you, much of your old gear is now quite out of date. Think of Azeroth as a giant piñata filled with loot, and then imagine Deathwing's entrance into the world ripping a hole in said piñata the size of the Maelstrom. There are reputation vendors dying to give out new leather gear to anyone loyal to their cause, and new dungeon bosses mean new dungeon drops. The best part of all this new gear is that with the new armor specialization system, hunters and warriors will finally stop rolling on our leather.
The big list
I'm not really a fan of spending an entire column linking items and saying "these are good," so I'm going to leave that part up to you. I've taken the time to compile a nice listing of all available leather armor that comes from reputation and justice points vendors, quest rewards, dungeon bosses, and BoE drops. I purposefully left out the heroic versions of the items to condense the list, so note that every dungeon drop has a heroic version as well that you can upgrade to. If you're an engineer or you know a leatherworker or jewelcrafter, you can also consult this quick list of craftable gear.
For trinkets, there are so many that you are bound to run into two rogue ones eventually. When it comes to weapons, there are also many options, so here's another list of what's available. Note that there's really only one good thrown weapon available, so make sure to pick it up if you can. If you're not able to snag it, there is also a green quest reward from Twilight Highlands that will do. The bonus is that it's one of Garona's old weapons! We want to avoid most guns and bows, since Fan of Knives now requires a thrown weapon to use.
These lists are by no means complete, but they should give you a general idea of where you can get new gear from. You're not going to have "perfect" gear for quite some time; simply replace your weakest pieces first and run dungeons whenever possible. The random dungeon LFD tool is more active than ever, and now is a great time to start acquiring gear for future raids. Make friends with a tank or a healer to make your queues move faster, and just run as many dungeons as you can. There's no reason to focus on a specific dungeon, you'll earn more justice points by running random groups.
Reputation rewards
As I mentioned above, the new vendors for the Cataclysm reputations have great gear available. If you quest through each of the five new zones, you should be at least honored with each of the five major factions. Ramkahen, based in Uldum, will be an important faction to focus on. They supply us with our helm arcanum, and so we'll want to get revered with them in short order. Similarly, Therezane is the parallel to Wrath's Sons of Hodir, and they're the source of our shoulder enchant items.
Use the new tabards you can acquire from any of the five factions' quartermasters to level up your reputation quickly. Each faction has at least a couple good items for rogues, and so we'll want to eventually level up each reputation as we continue to participate in dungeons.
Reforge trash into treasure
Your first visit to the reforging vendor at level 85 should be to rebalance all of your gear until you can reach the yellow and/or poison hit cap (which is typically 11 percent) and the expertise cap for your character. Reforge your spec's worst stat into hit or expertise rating as needed, and stop once you're there. If you're over somehow, feel free to reforge either rating off your gear until you're back to the caps. Once you have your hit and expertise under control, you can start reforging your worst stat into your best stat. With only haste, critical strike, and mastery available, it's very likely that you'll either be reforging either crit or mastery to haste, depending on your spec.
The key to getting yourself ready to raid is never saying "no" to a gear upgrade. No matter what you do, you're not going to be covered in epic gear without raiding -- there are simply not enough pieces available. Blues are the best you can do, and there are even multiple tiers of good blue gear. By running dungeons and heroics, leveling up strategic reputations, and spending your justice points wisely, you can get yourself kitted out in blues in record time. Blues are find for the starting raids, and if you get to mix in a few epics, you will be more than ready for the challenges that await in the opening tier of Cataclysm raiding.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
RAEGLATEM Dec 15th 2010 3:18PM
Thank you so much Chase! I was just doing this for myself going through slot by slot but you made it easy for me once again!
Yvl Dec 15th 2010 3:20PM
"Your first visit to the reforging vendor at level 85 should be to rebalance all of your gear until you can reach the yellow poison hit cap (which is typically 11 percent) and the expertise cap for your character."
I had read that Expertise isn't all that great for us anymore?
Nehcrom Dec 15th 2010 3:42PM
From what I understand, you are right about expertise, at least for assassination. If you look at the EP of each stat, expertise has taken a nose-dive. As an example, expertise gems are 41EP, while agility gems are 104EP. There is more value in adding hit to poison cap, haste, mastery... over expertise. If a special happens to be dodged, you regain 80% of your energy wasted anyway.
Mostly sourced from EJ's rogue forums.
Garrett Dec 15th 2010 3:45PM
You will still want to be at least dodge capped, parry is less important so long as you stay away from the front of a boss, as anyone should. Both caps are good to aim for with the few fights that require you to be front facing (super rare).
AEP value of expertise doesn't accuratly show that it is still needed at cap before moving on to other stats, because isn't it just awful when your envenom is dodged right as your slice and dice falls off?
Scyan Dec 15th 2010 3:46PM
Indeed. I'd like to hear more about the issue with Expertise. From what I understand, it has been devalued for all specs since dodged finishers no longer cost full energy. Expertise has been devalued even more for Assassination after the latest buffs to its mastery.
I'll be raiding as Assassination, and the min/maxer in me wants to do the "right" thing and reforge for mastery and/or haste. However, just subjectively it feels wrong to simply ignore expertise. About a week ago Ghostcrawler posted an article about secondary stats, mentioning that for hit and expertise, "it's intended that they are very good up until their caps". Seems like they missed the mark for Assassination.
scherbaddie Dec 15th 2010 5:38PM
Expertise over the dodge cap is never a good idea. And it would take 2-3 dodged envenoms in a row to let SnD fall off.
Don't gem expertise over agility. Only reforge to expertise (or any stat) if it is better than the stat you are reforging from.
Lemons Dec 15th 2010 7:36PM
"dodged finishers no longer cost full energy"
What do they cost? Did they make Quick Recovery baseline or something?
Adam Hedgpeth Dec 15th 2010 3:25PM
Hey! The wowhead URL you linked is an excellent recourse, however, filtering out the heroic versions of items removes a ton of great gear you can find from heroic shadowfang keep and heroic deadmines. I'm not certain there's a good way to fix that, but here is the same query with ONLY heroic gear that is missing a bunch of rep and quest drops, but includes the gear you can get from those 2 instances:
http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=qu=3;ty=2:-3:-6:-2;minle=329;maxle=360;ub=4;cr=23:21:79:146;crs=3:1:3:1;crv=0:0:0:0;gb=1
Desworks Dec 15th 2010 10:07PM
And, just because more info never hurts, here's a list of all heroic ilevel items (346) available to rogues for all slots except for trinkets.
http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=qu=3;sl=16:5:8:11:10:1:7:21:2:22:13:15:3:25:6:9;minle=346;maxle=346;ub=4;cr=21:79;crs=1:3;crv=0:0;gb=1
And also, to complete the list, all the non profession based trinkets as well:
http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=62051;58181;62463:62468;56295;56328;56427;56440;56394
I'm including the Fluid Death as a non raid trinket because there aren't that many trinkets and enough dailies will net you it in the end. Enjoy your heroic farming folks!
Desworks Dec 15th 2010 10:14PM
Naturally, I can't edit my post thanks to the comment system, but I also forgot to include the exalted rewards from The Earthen Ring and Dragonmaw/Wildhammer. They are:
Earthen Ring - Signet of the Elder Council:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62362
Dragonmaw/Wildhammer - Liar's Handwraps/Stormbolt Gloves:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62417 / http://www.wowhead.com/item=62433
And that should be all the pre raid Rogue loot. ;)
Frostitute Dec 15th 2010 3:27PM
Nice, well written outline. I don't play a rogue myself, but something about the class always has me skulking their development in the shadows. I play mage and a lot of what you said still applies to me.
I like how getting an epic right now means something. There's a psychological barrier there between blues and purples. Regardless of stats, it always feels great to get a purple amongst a sea of blue.
Hivetyrant Dec 15th 2010 3:46PM
Rogues, don't forget to pickpocket everything you can (especially in instances while you're sap'ing for the group)
You might just get an epic throwing weapon:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=68162
Smokey Dec 15th 2010 3:54PM
"Your first visit to the reforging vendor at level 85 should be to rebalance all of your gear until you can reach the yellow poison hit cap (which is typically 11 percent) "
Not sure if this is a typo or not but the "yellow hit cap" and the "poison hit cap" are not the same thing. The "yellow hit cap" is the hit cap for special attacks(mutilate etc.) and requires 481 hit rating to achieve at lvl 85( with 2/3 precision).
SleepySlug Dec 15th 2010 8:26PM
Best way to see if you're poison capped is to open the spell tab in your character stats section and check your SPELL hit. To be poison capped that needs to be 18% in total.
I'm still not quite there, however I believe it's ~1100 hit rating with 3/3 Precision. (Please don't hold me to that as that's just me seeing that I get ~.01% spell hit per HR and being 1.54% off the cap, personally)
SleepySlug Dec 16th 2010 12:37AM
oops, 17%. There we go
hugybear Dec 15th 2010 6:32PM
i was confused by the link you provided for reforging info... it didn't seem to have any advice on reforging other than that one should reforge.
Rufio Dec 15th 2010 5:20PM
Yes yes yes! It's like you read my mind chase! This and the 101 article form last week are my bible. Thanks dude!
Jason Dec 15th 2010 7:14PM
I am a big fan of the column, I look forward to it every week.
But I just don't find it very helpful. Having read all the articles on the other classes about gearing up, they break down reputation rewards intelligently and suggest paths of upgrade an reputations to grind first.
When reading this article the only impression I got was that of a writer pressed for time, with other things on their mind that were more important than actually doing research to understand the material they are tasked to write about.
Once more, I am a big fan of the column, and the reputation rewards article for wrath is still in my list of favourites (http://wow.joystiq.com/2008/11/26/encrypted-text-wrath-reputation-rewards-for-rogues/). so I am not being a critic of the author, but just this particular article.
Chase Christian Dec 15th 2010 10:25PM
I find that half of people want it spelled out (do this then buy this then grind this) and others just want their options laid out cleanly. I try to alternate between the two when I can.
Zoop Dec 22nd 2010 4:35PM
I agree with Chase... depending on the person, they want very different things. MrRobot focuses on tools and lists (http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear), which seems to suit your style, but doesn't offer complete guides like these written by Chase. Even though I'm on Mr.Robot all of the time, I find myself studying these guides to help figure out what I should do, when, where and how.