The Queue: What do you mean there's an octopus on my face?
by Michael Sacco 
Dec 17th 2010 at 11:00AM
Yesterday was mostly comments on Adam's treatise, so there wasn't a lot of Queue-worthy material in there. Sorry.
The quest giver told me he had put something on my head to show to L'ghorek, but I didn't notice anything different. And speaking of Vashj'ir ...
Shulkman asked:
I read in a blue post about six months ago that there was supposed to be a special "underwater food" for questing in Vashj'ir. (Also, something special for the mages, food wise.) Whatever happened to that?
Blizzard took the far, far superior route of letting you eat or drink whatever you want in Vashj'ir, as long you're not swimming. You can consume nutriment at your leisure while sitting on the ocean floor or any horizontal surface.
Kay asked:
What is the acceptable "par" DPS at the moment for heroics? I'd personally say about 8-9k per DPS to be able to comfortably kill everything that needs killing, but perhaps my numbers are off.
I've found that the 8-9k DPS range is about "average" right now in heroics. It lets us do what we need to do, when we need to do it.
Michael asked:
Are shaman in Cataclysm becoming what paladins were in Wrath? Paladins had a strong place in the Argent Crusade in Wrath that seems to have fizzled in Cataclysm.
Shaman definitely play a big role in Cataclysm. The Earthen Ring is back in a big way -- and in two 80+ zones, too! I'm happy to see so many totem jockey NPCs running around the new zones. Like a big totemic family reunion.
On the paladin side of things, though, Tirion's boys are doing just fine too. WPL is almost completely cleansed and EPL is in process. Some day, Lordaeron will be beautiful again.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 11)
Tyler Dec 17th 2010 1:07PM
No it won't. The Forsaken are seeing to that.
SR Dec 17th 2010 1:25PM
Poor, poor Southshore... /cry
Question for the queue, or for anyone... How do I change my password/picture on this site? I might be mentally challenged, but I usually don't have trouble finding these things... :(
Qeww Dec 17th 2010 1:42PM
I see a GREAT Faction war in the next expansion. Look at the maps, look how they've changed the lines of defense on both sides. Not just in Northern EK but in Kalimdor also, the Alliance has advanced into the Barrens just as the Horde as advanced into nElf areas. The warcraft of war is at hand.
All we need is another expansion in a year or two and BAM, it's Game On for control of the main land.
-on a side note-
I am totally interested in the Undead story line and how this all plays out in the Lore of things. I've only played on the Alliance side (which is great) but I'm interested in seeing (playing) the whole story of WoW. Not this year and maybe not even next year, but sooner or later I'll roll a Horde Undead something.
Avan Dec 17th 2010 2:50PM
Damn straight we're seeing to that. All you living jerks, flaunting your life in our faces. You'll all see the only joy of this curse, as we descend upon your freshly slain corpses for nourishment, ripping your warm flesh and stuffing it down our jawless throats.
Unless we've killed you with plague. We won't eat corpses marinated in that stuff. Blech.
Ikarus Dec 17th 2010 3:02PM
@ SR you have to make those changes at the joystick parent site
Noyou Dec 17th 2010 8:05PM
@Qeww
I am thinking the war breaks out in this expansion and when Thrall comes back Ally and Horde will fight side by side against a common foe. Who knows make the forsaken split off. It is interesting for sure. I haven't read any of the books so I don't know if this is even remotely possible. Maybe the alliance can just steal the tauren away. :)
jslim419 Dec 19th 2010 12:34PM
"Seriously. The alliance needs to understand that the Forsaken were mostly the ORIGINAL inhabitants of Lordaeron, and therefore rightly theirs."
but.... they... are... dead. by dying legally they lost everything that they could claim a right to in their previous living human life.
i mean lol.. if someone with children died of the plauge, and came back as one of the forsaken. would they have a right to resume custody of their not dead children?
"oh yeah okay... kids your going to live with your undead zombie of a mother that will probably use your innards to brew a new form of blight in order to kill every living thing in the world."
the forsaken are evil, and... dead. if Hitler rose from the grave tomorrow would you stand by his claim that his rule over germany should be restored? no.. you would tell him (and more than likely help) to go back to being dead dead.
Rakah Dec 17th 2010 11:09AM
"Some day, Lordaeron will be beautiful again" not if the forsaken have anything to do with it :P
akiva Dec 17th 2010 11:27AM
Beauty is in the hollow, rotting eyesocket of the beholder.
Nina Katarina Dec 17th 2010 11:30AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - I think the Forsaken look is wonderfully creepy, personally, and a huge improvement over dusty orange of the former plaguelands.
lukeiamyourdad Dec 17th 2010 11:40AM
Highly unlikely that Sylvanas would be stupid enough to step on the neutral organization that defeated the Lich King and a well recognized hero for both Horde and Alliance like Tirion Fordring.
NecDW4 Dec 17th 2010 11:37AM
Seriously. The alliance needs to understand that the Forsaken were mostly the ORIGINAL inhabitants of Lordaeron, and therefore rightly theirs.
jorge_av Dec 17th 2010 11:43AM
I say we build the forsaken a new city elsewhere and let the Argent Crusade finish what they started. Lordaeron looks quite beautiful in its natural state, have northern Eastern Kingdoms serve only as a "living museum" and pit stop in the leveling curve. All the quests can revolve around escorting the farmers to towns through the dangerous forest and killing the excess predators that overran the newly lush forest.
I can see it now, the forsaken has their own island, complete with starting zone, improved city, zeppelin tower to Org and Northrend, a boat that connects them with Bilgewater Harbor to continue questing...
loreaddict Dec 17th 2010 11:48AM
@NecDW4
What about the citizens of Lordaeron who managed to escape from the plague?
It's their home too.
BridgitKiido Dec 17th 2010 11:53AM
@NecDW4
And the Forsaken need to understand that the Gilneans were the original inhabitants of Gilneas, and therefore that is rightly theirs. Until then, Sylvanas and company are going to come off as a bunch of giant hypocrites to me. :)
Zoroaster of The Bloodied Crown Dec 17th 2010 12:02PM
@NecDW4
Some of us Alliance folk don't look at it as an Alliance vs. Horde issue. Even if we take it as a given that a risen entity is the same lifeforce as it was predeath (which can be debated at a later time; I'm willing to play your game for the moment), which would mean that the "citizenry" is in large part fundamentally the same, that doesn't change the fact that the Kingdom was politically overthrown.
The rotting elf wench is no Menethil. She and her followers have no claim here.
A child of Terenas yet lives. And she will be found. And the House of Menethil will rise again... with or without the Alliance.
sean.aikins Dec 17th 2010 12:13PM
@NecDW4 - Are you off your rocker? Lordaeron was originally a human settlement overseen by King Terenas and his progeny (Arthas). The Forsaken took it from the humans when Arthas turned everyone into the Lich King's playthings. So technically the Humans are the rightful heirs to it. Arthas' sister Calia should come out of exile and take back what's rightfully her's from The Forsaken.
lilrabbit129 Dec 17th 2010 12:30PM
I can maybe relate to them having somewhat of a claim on parts of Lorderon. The living inhabitants aren't safe because Sylvanas is sending undead out to try to convert people. While they're still doing that then yeah, they have no claim.
Zainir Dec 17th 2010 12:35PM
@BridgitKiido
The Forsaken make no claims that Gilneas is their land. The Forsaken don't complain about the Alliance trying to take Lordaeron because thats war. What they complain about and sneer about is the pathetic rationalization the humans of the Alliance use.
"That was human land! So...uh...we need to take it back!"
If they just said "the Forsaken are our enemies and we need to kill them and raze their land because of that" then they'd open their bony arms in welcome before utterly destroying and raising any Alliance invasion force.
Its war. These are your enemies. Stupid, weak rationalization is pointless and makes the Alliance look silly.
Dril Dec 17th 2010 12:37PM
If only the Crusade would go destroy the Forsaken.
Or Bolvar could roflstomp the Forsaken with the remainder of the Scourge for, you know, killing him. But that's just me.
I really, really like the second option though.