Know Your Lore: Sylvanas Windrunner, part 1

It can be reasonably argued that of all the faction leaders currently featured in Cataclysm, none are quite as questionable in both motive and actions as Sylvanas Windrunner. The history of Sylvanas and her role in Wrath of the Lich King has already been discussed in the Forsaken politics article from earlier this year; at the point it was written, we had no real idea what exactly she was going to be doing in Cataclysm. Now we have answers, and those answers do nothing but raise even more incredibly disturbing questions.
Where do the Banshee Queen's loyalties lie? To the Horde, to her people, or to some other power entirely? Sylvanas' past was fraught with grief and horror; her future seems to be teetering on the brink of something even worse. With the introduction of the worgen, Sylvanas has something to focus on -- but what exactly are her motives, and who is it that she's ultimately fighting for?
Please note: The following post contains spoilers for the Forsaken storylines featured in Cataclysm content. If you have not played through Silverpine, Hillsbrad Foothills or the Western Plaguelands, turn away! And go play through those zones, because they are amazing.

Much to ponder? Definitely. Sylvanas had spent her unlife so focused on destroying the Lich King that the thought of what happened after he was destroyed never crossed her mind. She was so single-minded in her pursuit that the death of the Lich King left her with nothing, really. Yet she had a population of intelligent undead looking to her for guidance. Their queen had led them to victory, at last, and the being responsible for their suffering was finally destroyed.So, it is done. I had not dared to trust my senses. Too many times has the Lich King made me to be a fool. Finally, he has been made to pay for the atrocities he imposed upon my people. May Azeroth never fail to remember the horrible price we paid for our weakness, for our pride. But what now, Hero? What of those freed from his grasp but still shackled to their mortal coils? Leave me. I have much to ponder.
But Sylvanas and the Forsaken had a lot going against them; the coup of the Royal Apothecary Society was unsuccessful, and the disastrous results of the Wrathgate left the rest of the Horde incredibly wary of their supposed allies. Kor'kron guards had replaced Sylvanas' abominations, and her people were under close watch. On the one hand, they were free from the Lich King; on the other, they were now caged by the eyes of the Horde.

These two are definitely out. Sylvanas is just as ruthless as before, if not more so; she isn't looking for acceptance for her people, and the help from the Horde didn't accomplish anything in terms of warming up the cold-hearted banshee queen. There was no trust involved after the Wrathgate -- the Horde had made up its mind that the Forsaken needed to be under constant supervision. While the replacement guards may have been put into play to "help" prevent any future coups, what they essentially did was show the Forsaken that despite whatever claims of alliance the Horde may have had, the Forsaken people were not to be trusted under any circumstances.Sylvanas' redemption Sylvanas, over time, has begun to grow a little more heart. The addition and acceptance of the Forsaken to the Horde has softened her perspective on the living. The help from the Horde during the Undercity's capture and more notably in achieving the vengeance against Arthas that drove her all these years may have also had a hand in convincing her that an alliance with the living is not only possible but preferable to simply killing them all. The death of Arthas quieted the vengeance that burned in her heart, and now it is possible for her to approach the days ahead with hope for her people's ultimate acceptance by society.
Sylvanas' grief Sylvanas traveled to Quel'Thalas for no particular reason and stumbled upon not only the traitor responsible for Arthas' advance into Silvermoon, but the person responsible for her inevitable death at Arthas' hands. If Dar'Khan had not interfered, perhaps she could have stayed the assault on Quel'Thalas and saved her people from their abandonment. With the revelation that the Sunwell was not lost entirely, Sylvanas found herself strangely energized and overcome with the urge to reconnect with her living roots. After Anveena had safely been hidden away again, Sylvanas approached her former people to try and atone for her failure as a ranger-general and as a guardian of Silvermoon. The tentative alliance has convinced her that perhaps while it isn't possible to go back to her living life entirely, it is still possible for her to be accepted -- and in turn, perhaps it is possible for the Forsaken themselves to be accepted by the living. The death of Arthas was not only a gift to the Forsaken but to her former people, and now she can concentrate on leading her people to acceptance and ultimately, forgiveness.

During the Alliance half of the Battle for the Undercity sequence, Varian Wrynn refers to the Undercity as "our kingdom." This isn't exactly an untrue statement -- Lordaeron was an Alliance kingdom before the rise of the Lich King. But this is where Sylvanas' main problem rests -- to the Alliance, Lordaeron is theirs and should remain theirs. To the Forsaken, Lordaeron is their home -- and it's absolutely true. The Forsaken are the remnants of the people of Lordaeron, raised from death into undead. It is their home and always has been.
Sylvanas isn't looking for acceptance or forgiveness; she's trying to establish what is only right. Lordaeron belongs to the Forsaken in death, because Lordaeron belonged to those very same people in life. While her methods border on madness to those viewing the situation from the stance of the living, the end result makes sense; Lordaeron should rightfully stay with those that owned it to begin with, even if those people are now dead.

This was perhaps applicable for a short time after the Lich King's death -- the dialogue with players turning in the Shadowmourne quest item leaves her asking "What now?" in such a way that it suggests, again, that she'd given little thought to the possibility of actions after the Lich King's defeat. However, while the Battle for the Undercity was presented as a coup, and while Sylvanas denied all association with Putress and Varimathras, in Cataclysm, the Forsaken are still using the forsaken blight -- the plague that killed Bolvar and Saurfang, the plague that they'd sworn never to use again. Which leads us to the last theory presented in the article regarding Forsaken politics.Sylvanas' plight Sylvanas has no idea what's going on. She had a very solid reason for leading the Forsaken -- revenge against the man that tortured both her and the others she leads, the creature that cursed them to an un-life of grief and regret. But her people, who were at first so loyal to her cause, have turned against her, and with the one reason for her people's survival now taken care of, Sylvanas is left to deal with the aftermath of that betrayal. Without vengeance, what does Sylvanas have to drive her? Without the support of her people, how will she lead them to anything greater? And were the Forsaken working against her completely destroyed, or are there others that seek to undermine her rule? What are Sylvanas and the Forsaken as a whole supposed to do now?

This theory, oddly enough, appears to be closer to the truth than originally expected. While the amount of Sylvanas' involvement with Putress, Varimathras and the Forsaken Blight hasn't really been defined, her continued use of the Forsaken blight is almost a silent admission that she had some sort of involvement in its production. Either that, or the end result of the product's use didn't really matter to her one way or another. What we can gather from this is that Sylvanas' issue wasn't with the blight or its affects at the Wrathgate -- the only thing that irritated her was the attempted coup.Sylvanas' vengeance Sylvanas, possessing an incredibly shrewd and tactical mind, allied with the blood elves in the hopes of increasing the Forsaken's numbers as the blood elves slowly died out from magic withdrawal. However, the Horde was still breathing down her neck, and in addition, Varimathras was proving a more irritating presence by the day. To this end, she turned a blind eye to his machinations, fully aware that he was staging a coup -- and when he "took over" the Undercity, she quietly allowed it to happen. After all, not only would she be getting rid of a thorn in her side, but also she'd look very much the helpless victim to her Horde "allies," and the "betrayal" would absolve her of any involvement with the Forsaken Blight at the same time. With the death of Arthas, she and her people can now turn their attentions on bolstering their numbers, one corpse at a time -- as soon as they get rid of the pesky Kor'kron littering their halls.
The banshee queen now possesses an almost single-minded obsession with expanding Forsaken territory. Lordaeron is in the process of being turned; even the Scarlet Crusade is now undead. In addition, Sylvanas and her people have completely wiped out the town of Southshore with the Forsaken blight and continue to push westward into the Plaguelands, seeking to take over Andorhal in the name of the Forsaken. While the Horde seeks control of Gilneas as a major Horde base in the Eastern Kingdoms, Sylvanas seems more intent on grabbing the land specifically for the Forsaken.
The other point to the original theory is that Sylvanas knew about the coup ahead of time and actually fostered it in an attempt to get rid of Varimathras and Putress while keeping her hands clean of any involvement. At first, this seemed so far-fetched -- even for Sylvanas -- as to be absurd, but the events that play out in Silverpine tell a story that seems to lend itself to that theory. Not only because of her actions, but because of her odd new allies -- allies that Varimathras would have strongly objected to ...

Come back tomorrow for more on the banshee queen and the new objects of her affection, the Val'kyr.
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Reader Comments (Page 4 of 5)
Tabasa Dec 19th 2010 9:46AM
@Eskarel - I didn't say that -all- of the Forsaken raised are under her direct control. I think Muse has it about right.
Godfrey appeared to be all in with what was going on, and so he was left alone. A mistake I imagine Sylvanas is regretting.
Now, is it possible that all of those other examples are doing the exact same thing as Godfrey? Maybe, but then where are they? If we see (another) massive coup rising against Sylvanas soon (and one that's actually treated legitimately instead of its members being shrugged off as "crazy", "weak willed" or "racist"), then sure, but we haven't seen any real evidence of that, as the implication is that those raised in Silverpine are joining in the fight almost immediately (despite the leader of one of the larger groups of them very vocally crying out to his comrades to do whatever they can to keep themselves from being raised).
Halfway through the zone, it's also established that Sylvanas does have a mental link with the newly raised Forsaken, considering in a quest you "give yourself", you feel compelled to kill all of the Worgen in the area, feeling it's what Sylvanas would want you to do. Once you do so... suddenly Sylvanas begins talking to you in your head, and, guess what, it was -exactly- what she wanted you to do.
tl;dr - Hunters don't have Mind Control, but Dark Rangers do (Sylvanas could raise undead under her control in WC3). Even if that's being thrown out in WoW, we don't necessarily know the extent of the Valkyr's powers for certain, and so it could be possibly be done through them.
It's very clearly shown that all of the Forsaken are not under Sylvanas' direct control (Godfrey at least is proof of that). Saying that none of them are, though, seems fairly faulty given what's shown in Silverpine.
mingdi9 Dec 19th 2010 3:56PM
@Tabasa
Here's the quest you were talking about (http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27181), and I think your interpretation is incorrect. There is nothing to imply that Sylvanas has any sort of mental control over the player (who, mind, does not have to be Forsaken; I'm pretty sure a Tauren could obtain this quest).
In addition, I disagree with the notion that Sylvanas is controlling the new Forsaken, considering that throughout Tirisfal Glades and Silverpine Forest there is no actual evidence that she is, while there is plenty of evidence that she is not (basically the entirety of the 1-5 Undead starting area and Lord Godfrey).
Dee Dec 18th 2010 8:19PM
I personally see it as this. She was tasked with fortifying a stronghold in the Eastern Kingdom and every time one logs into the EK you see why this task is very daunting. The forces in EK are Horde: Forsaken & Belfs, Alliance: Worgen, Dwarf, Gnome, Humans. Now IMHO the Belfs aren't really doing much at....all. So in essences it's the Forsaken vs Most of the Alliance, and yes the alliance is split trying to keep the S. Barrens but you have to see the brilliance of bringing back the humans as Forsaken. In the final couple of quest in Silverpine an NPC notices the effect of this, "there were a lot less humans in the invasion. it seems they are afraid of our plague" or something to that end. Essential, think of it as a way to limit the enemy forces. I mean if you remove the humans from the equation you have the Worgen, the Dwarfs ( which aren't in the best of political positions at the time), and the gnomes( which are busy doing their own thing).
I see the forsaken as being in a huge disadvantage and having to take some drastic measures. I mean when the new hot head warchief tells you to "fortify" the upper half of the continent by yourself and you are already in the dog house because your lackeys went and dropped a huge crap storm while you were trying to get revenege.... there isn't much you can do. That's just the way I view it.
smashman Dec 18th 2010 8:57PM
I wonder how the Argent Crusade feels about the Forsaken moving in on Western Plaguelands...
I can't see the Forsaken saying to them: You guys can stay in the Plaguelands and keep doing your thing because you were so instrumental in taking Arthas down.
They must be at peace for now at least because undead players can waltz right in to Hearthglen. At some point they're going to want the rest of WPL and then what? Does the Crusade have what it takes to keep the Forsaken out?
Artificial Dec 18th 2010 11:43PM
"They must be at peace for now at least because undead players can waltz right in to Hearthglen."
It should be noted that Hearthglen is under the control of the Argent Crusade, and there are Forsaken members of the Argent Crusade, so... it would follow that undead can walk safely into Hearthglen. It's the Argent Crusade we're talking about here, not the Scarlet Crusade. Tirion is too smart to be racist -- he judges people by their actions, not their species (and that means THEIR actions, not the actions of someone else who happened to be the same species).
As for wanting the rest of the WPL eventually -- maybe, but Sylvanas isn't an idiot. Lots of nations *want* land their neighbors hold ("54-40 or Fight" ring any bells?), but they don't necessarily start a war over it, even if they think they could win it. There are costs to be considered, not only wartime expenses and losses, but diplomatic as well. The last thing Sylvanas needs is Tirion as an enemy.
Al Dec 19th 2010 12:31AM
Undead members, not Forsaken members. They don't share Sylvanas' apparent credo of "Get out of our way, or we'll kill you. Even then, we'll probably kill you." and lack of guilt about forcing others into a state of being she found unforgivable.
Udderpowered Dec 18th 2010 9:41PM
I think the Arthas novel confirmed she knew all about the plague, it might have strongly implied she ordered its creation too, bit hazy on that though. I like her, she adds some cunning and manipulation where Garrosh is slightly more...ORC SMASH.
Tabasa Dec 19th 2010 1:36AM
The new Tirisfal continues to confirm what the old Tirisfal did.
Sylvanas commissioned the plague and has quite a broad idea of its eventual targets.
Bluemain Dec 18th 2010 10:11PM
Never been a fan of the forsaken, the allaince should take lorderon back, hell give it to the worgen. better than whats there now, still gives me an idea for an allaince quest chain simallar to quel`danas
q1. bless 5 million gallons of water.(sever wide maybee)
q2. collect tons of enginering components to make a huge water pump.
q3 protect the sewer entrance of undercity whilst holywater is pumped in.
q4 help seal up all exits to the surface of lorderon.
q5 wipe out all remaining forsaken on the surface.
job done and good riddance.
NeoCloud61 Dec 18th 2010 10:14PM
That's the blood elf ambassador if I'm not mistaken.
icepyro Dec 18th 2010 10:15PM
Is it possible Sylvanas just doesn't know how to stop herself?
She wants desperately to make her home into her home, which means uniting Lordaeron once more. She found a way to create more Forsaken, so there is that. As said, both the living Alliance and the undead Forsaken view Lordaeron as belonging to them, which is technically true. So to unify it, kill all the local Alliance and make them into Forsaken, amirite? So now she's becoming the very thing she has sworn vengeance on all these years, but what can she do? Nobody is accepting or being accepted. Alliance and Horde both question her authority so she has to answer and prove she is capable. What else can she do? Accept death? Accept becoming one of the mindless, lost in despair?
Then she got that rude awakening at the end of Silverpine. She goes back to UC to ponder it all. For the first time since she's started this, she realizes what's going to happen next if she doesn't change (or maybe she thinks it's inevitable anyways?) and that scares her. But now she has an entire race to be responsible for. What will they say if she changes her ways? Will there be another coup? Who would aid her then? Could it be that while she has returned to UC to ponder this, she simply has everyone continuing on with what their doing until she decides? No new orders, so the atrocities continue as planned, just without her presence?
She's pushed on because she doesn't know what else to do and to keep her mind off the more serious questions. Keep pushing forward or become mindless, amirite? Now that the Blight is complete, now that she has faithful servants creating more undead, now that she has this machine rolling, how does she stop it? What will happen if she does? What will she do if she does?
So the real question is: Did she lead all these atrocities because this is some ultimate scheme or because she has no idea what else to do or how to stop it without laying down to die which is simply unacceptable?
Her redemption and/or her grief options are impossible because she can't slow down or risk losing everything she has. Garrosh wants nothing to do with her, so she can't find her place in society to be accepted. Heck, Thrall kind of left her alone for most of the game. She isn't accepted, no matter how hard she tries. How can she find redemption if nobody is willing to chance finding out if she can be acceptable?
Her plight, as mentioned, probably was true, but maybe only until she decided to unite Lordaeron. She really has no options. Move forward or stop dead. And her death isn't pretty. She knows this.
brian Dec 18th 2010 10:22PM
I have a tinfoil theory about Sylvanas.
Here's how my logic goes. Arthas raised Sylvanas as a banshee to help him scour the living with plague and create his undead army. Later, Sylvanas broke free of Arthas and created the Forsaken. Currently, Sylvanas is raising an undead army and scouring the Worgen with plague.
The theory:
What if Sylvanas was able to free her conscious mind from the Lich King's will, but deep within her psyche was still the powerful geas the Lich King himself has. The Burning Legion's plan is still being carried out, albeit unknowingly. Sylvanas states different reasons, but in my eyes that's just her rationalization for a compulsion she doesn't understand.
Xantenise Dec 19th 2010 4:57AM
My tinfoil hat theory is that the Old God under Tirisfal is corrupting her.
I don't think that Sylvanas has logically gone from "want to kill this guy for deadifying me" to "let's deadify everyone else", especially straight after his death. It's just not possible. Something is happening to her, and I bet it's an Old God.
Robert Dec 18th 2010 11:02PM
What if Putress and the apothecaries willingly died because they knew Sylvanas had the power to raise them back?
Eskarel Dec 19th 2010 6:10AM
That's sort of her problem though she can't. It's always been her problem and the reason for the plague and the val'kyr. She's not a necromancer and she can't raise the dead not even humans.
She's faced with the extermination of her race so she does some fairly hoorid things.
Zhiva Dec 18th 2010 11:28PM
From my point of view the whole WotLK is a power struggle within the Scourge. One group of Scourge got allied with the Horde and manipulated both factions into killing the leader of second group and fighting each other. Wrathgate incident was simply a bad timing - it didn't kill LK. Now this group commands val'kyrs, kills the living and raises them as undead, expands/plagues the territory...
Rajinnu Dec 19th 2010 1:00AM
Blizzard obviously has a plan for her and the Forsaken. We all know Metzen like redemption. I would say at some point in Cata or in the next expansion Sylvanas gets raid bossed and the Forsaken gain their redemption (perhaps not 'alive' but some form of redemption with a new leader.
I always thought the ghost of Terenas would have been cool but he obviously wouldn't go against the Alliance, it would take some weird story where he wants to save 'his' people over the rest of the Alliance or something.
I also thought the 3 Gilneas guys who ended up in SFK would have been an interesting ruling council too, but obviously they went a different way.
Blightcaller perhaps?
There is obviously a heck of a lot more to come for the Forsaken yet tho.
Now.. what of Arathi.. more in a future patch? Plenty of people are back from OL... where is Danath!
Inconnel Dec 19th 2010 1:39AM
Paraphrasing a line from Midworld by Alan Dean Foster..
"What can stop the scourge but the scourge..?"
I see the time coming when the continued research by Sylvanus actually provides a cure for the Forsaken undead state.. as in they are not walking corpses, but actually fully alive again with the usual reproductive functions.
Lets face it, for all the demon knowledge and wicken-poo practicing by the Forsaken, they nor anyone on Azeroth understand the mysteries of the Universe and life, and how life finds a way .. Painfully, terribly at times, but life finds a way (thank you Jeff Goldblum)
What more subtle twist of fate couldd there be than for a new faction to join the game.. a nuetral faction, formed by those who were formerly "Forsaken", but are now alive and loving it?
In closing, would be ironic if a wee bacterium accidently included in the plague research batch number 8972.. were to actually restore full alive status baack to the forsaken.
"cue end of movie speech by Morgan Freeman, about the tiniest life on the palent being its greatest protectors"
Ata Dec 19th 2010 3:11AM
It's the T-virus!
Gizen Dec 19th 2010 1:45AM
I don't understand why anyone would ever claim Sylvanas, or anyone for that matter, didn't know about the blight in advance. The existence of the blight was secret to no one, what with the forsaken's storyline for so long focused entirely around creating it. In Dragonblight, when the blight is finally completed and delivered, Overlod Agmar at Agmar's Hammer even congratulates you on personally testing and perfecting the Horde's new super weapon. Everyone, or at least a good majority of the horde, and even the alliance, knew the Forsaken were creating the Blight. However, the Forsaken regularly would remind them it was 'just for use on the undead/our enemies'. So the surprise wasn't the existence of the blight, it was the fact that they used it so willingly on their allies.
As an aside, I