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Chaos orb hotfix,

Thanks for that one blizz

This is one of those simple, logical, quality of life changes which I am utterly thankful for!

Oh, very nice. Ideally it'd be 475 or so, so they couldn't roll on an orb that they couldn't use, but still an improvement. I heartily approve!

this is the best change ever! I love you, Blizz

Incoming "when will they fix it so that people can't roll on my enchanting mats".

Take cover, you have been warned.

The minimum roll level should be higher imo I'd say at least 475 or even 500. But a step in the right direction nonetheless.

Make me laugh at those douchebags on the mmo champion forums who said they rolled need because blizzard will make them unbound soon

To anyone saying it should be higher than 425,

Why? Yeah, they can't use the Chaos Orb right this instant, but they will once they've gotten their professions up. I've barely leveled my Engineering so far, but I should still be able to get Chaos Orbs so I can craft my goggles once I've gotten the mats together.

Funny that.

People who aren't enchanters can't use my enchanting mats, but they can still roll for them anyways without my consent and put them up on the auction house or in the guild bank for their enchanter guildies.

But I can't roll on something that could become BoE, as history leads us to believe, and then mass dump them in the guild bank or auction house?

@LandMineHare History led you to believe what? It was BoP in TBC, and was not in Wrath, none of these were "fixed" to become BoE or BoP or vice versa, what the hell are you talking about.

To the enchanters QQ about this, don't think is much to complain, the don't roll on YOUR mats, its a greed roll on a loot item, that happens to have the option to get DE, which is positive in my opinion. Enchanters in group provide utility, and less work for the guild enchanters DEing all the accumulated greens from greed rolls.
And before I get done... I do have an enchanter toon too (Altoholic).

Egoistically, shame is BoP and only can roll the specific professions, so running with an alt without any of those professions can't roll to pass it on to my other toon – but I feel the move is more than fair - thumbs up for me.

@ LandMineHare

Yes, I certainly can use "your" enchanting mats! You know, by finding an enchanter and paying him to use the mats that I supply. Considering that we always rolled greed on greens anyway and had to get them disenchanted later, your logic is flawed and silly.

Go eat a cookie or something. Your grumpiness seems to be getting in the way of clear thinking.

As an enchanter I don't mind people being able to use my skill to DE things at all. It ensures that they have their own mats when asking for an enchant.


Plus people are more likely to give me a bigger tip if they didn't have to purchase the mats first :D

@LandMine

By the time these are BOE the prices will have fallen very low. Its like sitting on the oil from the very first well for 50 years. So, this doesn't really wash. And yes my enchanter gets boned, I got over it a year ago.

It is hard to believe how enchanters feel slighted by the group DE ability. Before, the *proper* way to run a dungeon was greeding on BoE items you didn't need, and passing unneeded BoP items to the enchanter, who didn't keep the shards at the end but passed them out according to rolls or whatever had been decided as "fair". All the change really did was keep enchanters from promising to distribute shards at the end and then just running off with them anyway. In addition, enchanters no longer have to sit around DE'ing hundreds of items for people for 5 minutes for a 5g tip. Mats cost decreased quite a bit, especially shards from BoP dungeon drops, making it much cheaper and easier to level enchanting.

Personally, I'd prefer the chaos orbs to be BoE like Frozen Orbs were, and greed only, even though the first two toons I have into heroics are crafters. But they're not, so only crafters who can use them should be able to roll on them.

"To anyone saying it should be higher than 425, Why?"

"Yeah, they can't use the Chaos Orb right this instant..."


Congrats on answering your own question.

to anyone who bitches about the de thing

atleast some other professions use "your mats"

infact, I think both of my crafting professions need dust to make some things


and if we couldn't get those mats in this manner we would probably all just be rolling greed to vendor the items, so quit complaining

Landminehare - your argument is akin to saying, "Excluding any item that someone else has a legitimate reason to be rolling need on, I, as an enchanter, should have 'dibs' on everything else."

It just doesn't work that way. What you can transform it into doesn't constitute greater need. Everyone has equal claim on unneeded stuff.

Not to mention, everyone has equal need for their own gear to be modified by enchants. So even if we choose to take your approach, and view greeded items as useful only insomuch as they can be disenchanted, those mats are, in fact, equally needed by everyone. Whether or not you are maxed out yet in your profession isn't their fault and doesn't affect their rights.

By your logic, if you were a tailor, everyone you group with would be obligated to pass you all cloth that dropped off of all mobs for the duration of the run. As said before, it just doesn't work that way.