Gold Capped: Take the Mysterious Fortune Card house advantage

There's a craze in /trade. People are advertising Mysterious Fortune Cards that can be flipped to rarely turn into a Fortune Card that vendors for 5,000g. Like lambs to the slaughter, enough people head to the AH and buy a few that it's become a serious moneymaker for scribes. I use the expression "lambs to the slaughter" mostly in jest.
... Mostly?
Yeah, mostly. There's a few things people should know before buying one of these:
- The mats are a single Blackfallow Ink and paper. Milling a 100g stack of Cinderbloom gets you five Blackfallow Ink on average, meaning the cost of these bad boys can not be more than about 20g, assuming you vendor all the Inferno Ink you're also getting.
- That rare epic card that people link is really rare. I've seen parses (from Touchofidiocy on the JMTC forums) that have collected data from over 1,500 flipped cards and not seen a single 1,000 or 5,000 gold reward.
Gambling: A tax on people who can't do math
The honest, factual truth is that if you are gambling, someone is making money off you. The amount they make is called the "house advantage" (or expected value) and is usually expressed as a percentage. So for blackjack with eight decks, assuming the player is playing perfectly, the house advantage is 0.66%. Roulette has a 5.26% house advantage. What this means is that every time you make a bet, you are, in the long run, going to get your money back minus the house advantage. You will win some and lose some, but when all's said and done, you're most likely to leave with less than you walked in with. Anything else would be unprofitable for the house.
This reasoning is lost on most people, and I get that. Lotteries and casinos are incredibly popular in real life, and the average person you stop and ask holding a lottery ticket would tell you that they don't trust the stock market, which has shown a 10% average yearly yield, including during the Great Depression. People are irrational, and that's normal.
The house advantage for the Mysterious Fortune Card is 98%.
I suspect part of the demand for these is that people just don't know what the odds are. No amount of irrationality and endorphine reinforcement of risk-taking can justify a 2% average return. Another part of it is probably curiosity, and there are at least some cooks buying these and not flipping them. As it becomes more and more clear how low the return on these actually is, fewer people will buy them.
So should you sell them?
In a word, yes. If you have the ability to sell these, there's absolutely no reason not to. Morally, there are two ways of looking at situations like this.
The first one, which many auction house affectionados ascribe to, is "buyer beware." If it's really such a bad decision to buy something, it's up to the buyers to protect themselves. Sellers have to trust in the invisible hand of the market to weed out bad deals and assume that since we can't force people to do what's best for them, it's not immoral to offer them a bad deal.
I've been tempted by this logic in certain ways, but it doesn't always cut it for me. My own little tempest in a teapot has always been the old trick of selling single arrows for the price of a stack (happily laid to rest in the history books of badly designed user interfaces). I described the practice as "morally equivalent to taking mats to enchant a piece of gear and not doing the promised enchant." While the Mysterious Fortune Card market is different in that there's no badly designed AH interface sorting stacks stupidly, there's still an expectation of better odds than are being delivered. If someone asks me whether they should buy these, I'll say no every time.
The second way of looking at this is "the end justifies the means." Whether I feel like I'm ripping someone off when I make a sale or not, they're going to buy it anyway unless someone sets them straight. I'd rather that money land in my wallet than my competitor's. I don't link the 5,000g card in trade chat, but I mass produce cards and undercut on the AH heavily. I'm still making money, but it's at the expense of the inscription competition, who will have that much less capital to reinvest in getting more efficient Darkmoon decks. This opens me up to even more productivity as my competition becomes my biggest customer when they decide to try and fix prices on the fortune cards. Every time one of them buys my entire posted stock, trying to drive the price higher, I pull another 200 inks from the bank, craft, and relist. This is profitable for me and unprofitable for them.
The end result is that no scribe can prevent people from throwing their money out the window. All they can do for now is prevent their competition from getting ahead by adding to the supply. Eventually, either people will figure out how terrible a deal these cards are, or Blizzard will step in somehow. Or nothing will change, and we'll all keep making money hand over fist.
Filed under: Economy, Gold Capped






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
Necromann Dec 29th 2010 3:11PM
I know a guy who got the 5kg card. He's a scribe so he made a boatload and flipped them all over. I should refer this article to him.
George Dec 29th 2010 3:31PM
He probably didn't get it and is just linking the 5k one using a script, as in
/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:60840:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Fortune Card]\124h\124r");
If the /script thing gets mauled it's easy to get it right @ wowhead: http://www.wowhead.com/item=60840 - click the "link" button and follow the instructions.
Cephas Dec 29th 2010 7:34PM
A funny quirk about linking items like that is that if no one on the server has seen the item yet, it doesn't work. At the very least, one person on your server has seen the jackpot card if it's getting linked.
Kuckuck Dec 29th 2010 8:52PM
If you whisper yourself the link it will then work in trade.
Shinhan Dec 30th 2010 2:39AM
I never had an inscription alt. This is making me consider dropping JC on my alt and getting Inscription instead, just to make this cards.
SirTreek Dec 30th 2010 7:47AM
@Cephas. That is no longer true. This was changed in Cata. If you have Atlasloot you can already see every item on every boss available now, prior to someone actually getting it on the server.
tutti Dec 31st 2010 4:11PM
@SirTreek: But someone still has to have seen it for you to be able to LINK it.
Serrath Dec 29th 2010 3:14PM
I haven't tried selling these but I did make a giant batch for myself. I won't lie, I was curious and really wanted to see if, "just maybe."
I'm going to give selling them a shot... but I will find it rather difficult to legitimize spending inks on this when I can trade them in to assist in making more Darkmoon cards.
Morcego Dec 29th 2010 4:01PM
I've made them, just for the skill points. Sorry, but if the odds for the 5000g card are 0.1% (and they are probably lower), and you hit it with exactly 1000 cards, if each card costs you 5g you broke even. Ok, so 1 parchment and 1 ink might cost less than that on your realm, but you have to add to that the loss of profits you have from making these cards instead of something else. On my realm (Khaz Modan), each card will cost a lot more than that. Maybe somewhere between 9g and 15g, depending on how many pigments you make.
No, I don't like those odds at all.
Xsinthis Dec 29th 2010 3:21PM
Nooooooo why most insider and champ post about this on the same day :(
Zalvi24 Dec 29th 2010 4:08PM
i have no idea, i was making shit load of gold by selling them in trade for 75g a pop by only spending 1k gold max in mats(either herbs or the inks whichever was cheapest) in less then 1 hour i made almost 10k gold.
Susano Dec 29th 2010 3:22PM
I've been levelling my cooking specifically so I can make fortune cookies in time before the demand goes down
On my server theres only 1 seller, and he only has about 10 up usually (@ 50g per)
Priestess Dec 29th 2010 8:41PM
I'm glad someone finally mentioned that these are also for cooking. Everyone talks about how you can flip them, while completely overlooking the fact that you can cook these cards into cookies. That's what I've been doing for my guild. And you *still* get to flip the card. Seems like you're doubling the benefit, if you actually use food buffs.....
Neodarkmatter Dec 29th 2010 3:22PM
I find making these into cookies more appealing. Not only do you get a good food buff from them but it costs nothing but the card and flour and you still get the card flipped over back when you eat it.
Adoisin Dec 29th 2010 6:09PM
Same, I have been selling the cookies. At least people get a buff out of them if they don't get a good fortune card!
Trelteth Dec 29th 2010 3:26PM
I'm guilty of buying these by the boatload. I'll buy a stack, flip them, tell myself that NO more after this stack! Then find myself running back in to the AH and buying a bunch more. Haven't got anything decent but a green one that sells for 20g. I'm made of money though and have nothing better to spend my excess gold on at the moment... other than gambling :P
Hyacin Dec 30th 2010 8:11AM
Ha! Same here ... even knowing the odds I just can't stop buying them ... it's horrible ...
Ragen Dec 29th 2010 3:25PM
It's exactly why locals in Vegas usually don't like gambling: We know exactly how hard it can hit you.
I also really like that Blizzard added these cards into the game, because it makes for a wonderful Ink sink which will help keep demand for inks quite high.
Caz Dec 29th 2010 3:26PM
My scribe is an alt that I've not leveled in a while, but I'm interested in maxing out Inscription since it'll only be the second crafting profession I've had at max level (excluding cooking).
Right now, I need a break from all crafting - I'm angry at auction house shenanigans, and sick of getting totally gouged on mats only to end up at a despairing loss. 1000+ gold spent on materials to make a bag that I find is only selling for 300-350 because each tailor continuously undercuts the guy above them.
Lorne Pearl Dec 29th 2010 5:43PM
Hey, are you on Korialstrasz? Don't worry, my bag sold, so your 500g bags are now the lowest again.