Gold Capped: Take the Mysterious Fortune Card house advantage

There's a craze in /trade. People are advertising Mysterious Fortune Cards that can be flipped to rarely turn into a Fortune Card that vendors for 5,000g. Like lambs to the slaughter, enough people head to the AH and buy a few that it's become a serious moneymaker for scribes. I use the expression "lambs to the slaughter" mostly in jest.
... Mostly?
Yeah, mostly. There's a few things people should know before buying one of these:
- The mats are a single Blackfallow Ink and paper. Milling a 100g stack of Cinderbloom gets you five Blackfallow Ink on average, meaning the cost of these bad boys can not be more than about 20g, assuming you vendor all the Inferno Ink you're also getting.
- That rare epic card that people link is really rare. I've seen parses (from Touchofidiocy on the JMTC forums) that have collected data from over 1,500 flipped cards and not seen a single 1,000 or 5,000 gold reward.
Gambling: A tax on people who can't do math
The honest, factual truth is that if you are gambling, someone is making money off you. The amount they make is called the "house advantage" (or expected value) and is usually expressed as a percentage. So for blackjack with eight decks, assuming the player is playing perfectly, the house advantage is 0.66%. Roulette has a 5.26% house advantage. What this means is that every time you make a bet, you are, in the long run, going to get your money back minus the house advantage. You will win some and lose some, but when all's said and done, you're most likely to leave with less than you walked in with. Anything else would be unprofitable for the house.
This reasoning is lost on most people, and I get that. Lotteries and casinos are incredibly popular in real life, and the average person you stop and ask holding a lottery ticket would tell you that they don't trust the stock market, which has shown a 10% average yearly yield, including during the Great Depression. People are irrational, and that's normal.
The house advantage for the Mysterious Fortune Card is 98%.
I suspect part of the demand for these is that people just don't know what the odds are. No amount of irrationality and endorphine reinforcement of risk-taking can justify a 2% average return. Another part of it is probably curiosity, and there are at least some cooks buying these and not flipping them. As it becomes more and more clear how low the return on these actually is, fewer people will buy them.
So should you sell them?
In a word, yes. If you have the ability to sell these, there's absolutely no reason not to. Morally, there are two ways of looking at situations like this.
The first one, which many auction house affectionados ascribe to, is "buyer beware." If it's really such a bad decision to buy something, it's up to the buyers to protect themselves. Sellers have to trust in the invisible hand of the market to weed out bad deals and assume that since we can't force people to do what's best for them, it's not immoral to offer them a bad deal.
I've been tempted by this logic in certain ways, but it doesn't always cut it for me. My own little tempest in a teapot has always been the old trick of selling single arrows for the price of a stack (happily laid to rest in the history books of badly designed user interfaces). I described the practice as "morally equivalent to taking mats to enchant a piece of gear and not doing the promised enchant." While the Mysterious Fortune Card market is different in that there's no badly designed AH interface sorting stacks stupidly, there's still an expectation of better odds than are being delivered. If someone asks me whether they should buy these, I'll say no every time.
The second way of looking at this is "the end justifies the means." Whether I feel like I'm ripping someone off when I make a sale or not, they're going to buy it anyway unless someone sets them straight. I'd rather that money land in my wallet than my competitor's. I don't link the 5,000g card in trade chat, but I mass produce cards and undercut on the AH heavily. I'm still making money, but it's at the expense of the inscription competition, who will have that much less capital to reinvest in getting more efficient Darkmoon decks. This opens me up to even more productivity as my competition becomes my biggest customer when they decide to try and fix prices on the fortune cards. Every time one of them buys my entire posted stock, trying to drive the price higher, I pull another 200 inks from the bank, craft, and relist. This is profitable for me and unprofitable for them.
The end result is that no scribe can prevent people from throwing their money out the window. All they can do for now is prevent their competition from getting ahead by adding to the supply. Eventually, either people will figure out how terrible a deal these cards are, or Blizzard will step in somehow. Or nothing will change, and we'll all keep making money hand over fist.
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Reader Comments (Page 4 of 4)
Ghrit Dec 30th 2010 12:12AM
Hey you -- yeah YOU, the article author, the guy mooching off of your competitions ads and posting excessive undercuts. You're a dick. Do your own marketing. Douche.
Joker Dec 30th 2010 1:47AM
I spent 2k on Fortune Cards yesterday. I won 30g... Woot!
Mask Dec 30th 2010 1:57AM
There are no Cata herbs on my server cheaper than about 140g for a stack of 20, and Cinderbloom is actually closer to 180g. I don't think I'm gonna be able to make much money on selling these :(
Daniel Dec 30th 2010 5:54AM
I've looked at these when someone links them in chat,and the AH price is 26 g for one I think.I'm on Silvermoon. P.S DK's must find it really hard to get their flying mount without a main to give them the cash.My DK's has only 20 gold at lvl 59.I'm lvling skinning and LW
JayS Dec 30th 2010 8:08AM
I have been selling these for the last but but it has got to the point that they are now selling in the AH for 15g each, way less than it costs to make them. I think to many people are "in" on it now.
matt Dec 30th 2010 9:26AM
these really aren't selling that fast on my server, not sure why. I barked trade for a few hours last night while I watched sales on the AH. Despite my barking and the pretty low prices that they were listed only 30 of them sold during the 7-11 prime window. pretty much a waste of time, even if I make ever sale its only 150g for barking trade all night.
Maybe a better deal on a server with more gamblers but its hardly a sure thing, depends heavily on your server.
JokersWyld Dec 30th 2010 11:48AM
I made over 80k in the last couple weeks. In the beginning, I was the only one selling and I couldn't pump them out fast enough. Out of curiosity, I started raising the prices and I was able to get 100g per card and still selling out. Competition has now gotten fierce and I've all but pulled out of making the cards, but it has left me with a ton of inferno ink and 310% on all 10 of my toons :)
I know it's all part of the RNG, but in my sales I noticed that the 5k card came up about 1:100. I would take a screenshot of the winner holding the card in a trade window and proclaim their fortunate luck in trade chat. Either your friend is extremely unlucky on finding the 5k card, or the RNG hates your friend.
wutsconflag Jan 3rd 2011 4:25PM
"Lottery should be played for entertainment only and not for investment purposes."
This is the standard disclaimer I provide when I bark these cards in Trade. Of course, I usually follow up with a "25g for a chance at 5000g? Buy them now!"
@80g for a stack of Cinderbloom, if I get four inks and sell each card for 20.5g, I break even, not counting the occasional Inferno ink.
Ka-pow Feb 24th 2011 10:04AM
The thing about these is that people now know about them, know that the droprate is crappy and they have many scribes to choose from.
I were fast with these, I dropped Engineering and bought herbs to max my inscription just a day after Cataclysm launch, which resulted in me being the only seller on a server full with people that had a few extra thousand gold, which they were more than willing to spend on these cards.
I ended up earning about 20-30K in just an hour before someone started to sell them cheaper than I did. (I sold them in trade for about 200g ea, with a mat cost of about 30g)
tldr; I don't sell them anymore, but I still earned a lot of gold from them.