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1-02-2011 @ 8:28PM
Tin Foil hat time:I don't think Voss fits the bill as a leader of the Forsaken, at least not how they are now. There is only one person that I believe Blizzard will put on the throne of Lordaeron, and that is Calia Menethil. Here's where the tin-foil hat comes into play:I believe, and this may be in like 3-4 expansions from now, but I believe that Sylvanas' deepening madness will drive her to the point where she will become far too evil for even the horde to continue to harbor. There will be a big raid where we will kill her, and there will be a struggle for lordaeron - and the Alliance will win it back, with Calia Menethil the Queen of Lordaeron. The Forsaken will retreat into Silverpine, at least the ones loyal to the horde. I believe they may even take up residence in Gilneas (since they are already there). The undercity portion of lordaeron will be significantly altered, likely closer to what the Underbelly in dalaran looks like. And the upper portion of lordaeron will return to being the sprawling metropolis it once was.A big factor in retaking Lordaeron will be Calia Menethil, now wizened at a more mature age. She will have developed contacts with some Forsaken, who see Sylvanas' mental state becoming more and more unstable, and will create a spy network with those Forsaken who are loyal to Lordaeron. A combined alliance/forsaken force spearheaded by this forsaken elite group clear out Lordaeron as a group of heroes kills Sylvanas.Calia takes up residence on the throne, and invites all Forsaken loyal to Lordaeron to join the Alliance under her banner. Lordaeron then becomes the first major alliance city in northern Eastern Kingdoms.For gameplay purposes, Forsaken will not be allowed to be in the alliance, but you will start seeing undead looking NPC's at least in Lordaeron as if they were humans. They likely will even look more human, without tattered clothing.As far as who will lead the Forsaken horde faction? I'm not sure, although I don't think it will be Voss. She's possibly even more unstable than sylvanas. My guess is that it will be a Forsaken Noble or Lord.
1-02-2011 @ 9:39PM
I think its a cool tinfoilhat, but I don't find it that plausible or convincing, at least given the story we have now.As far as I'm concerned, any resolution to the Forsaken story involving the "long-lost sister of Arthas who is mentioned a whopping 4 times in official lore and doesn't even have a photo or piece of artwork to put on wowpedia" would be an extremely disappointing cop out and would ruin all the good writing that has gone into this story in the last two expansions.Not only is she an extremely minor character that hasn't made an appearance in WC3 or WoW (tho I believe she is present in the Arthas novel), in terms of lore she has no backing and has made no claim to her throne, legitimate as it may be, since her father was killed years and years ago.As for the Forsaken following Calia, that also doesn't make much sense, seeing as the Forsaken don't associate themselves with Lordaeron, only in the sense that the recognize the lands of "Lordaeron" as theirs and that they once belonged to that Kingdom. The humans of Lordaeron are the enemy: the people who deny the Forsaken's right to live on their own land, the people the Forsaken have been fighting for years. They don't accept the claim that Lordaeron is a human kingdom, why would they care if the human heir to the throne showed up? Sylvanas may be unbalanced, cruel, and ruthless, but she clearly represents their interests and is one of them, which (assuming Calia is still human and not undead) no human can ever claim to be. I guess, barring some radical shift in the way Forsaken think and act, I can't ever see the Forsaken following any human, legitimate as they may be. -And all of that doesn't even take into account how the rest of the Alliance (or just Stormwind, for that matter) would feel about accepting undead into their fold. Not everyone is as welcoming as the Argent Dawn, and who is to say they don't just round up all the Forsaken and put them in interment camps or kill them? "If you weren't going to give the lands of Lordaeron back to *humans* what's the point of taking it all"?-And even if the Horde did back away support from Sylvanas, they still owe it to the Forsaken people. The Forsaken were there fighting and dying in Outland and Northrend and the Twilight Highlands along with everyone else, even Garrosh knows the value of allies he dislikes and despises. On top of that, the Forsaken represent the majority of Horde territory in the Eastern Kingdoms, I'm sure the tactical side of any Horde leader recognizes that losing that means giving the Alliance a HUGE upper hand, plus I'm sure the Blood Elves wouldn't be so thrilled about having a united Human Kingdom right on its doorstep.Frankly, I see the resolution of this story with Bolvar, as he represents the combination of Life and Death, he is both alive and undead, infused with the power of the Lifebinder and commander of the damned. I don't think that necessarily means re-instating a human Kingdom, and I don't think that means Sylvanas' death, I just think that the ultimate resolution to the plight of the Forsaken will involve Bolvar in some shape or form.
1-03-2011 @ 12:22AM
The only way Calia is going to play a factor in the future rulership of Lordaeron is if she happens to have succumbed to the scourge and is now, secretly, among the ranks of the Forsaken. And it's pretty clear that's not going to happen either, although it would make an interesting storyline for Sylvanas to have to content with that for an expansion. But she'd win out in the end. Blizzard is far too fond of her.Also, http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27098 makes the notion that Blizzard is setting Sylvanas up to be a future raid boss patently absurd. It's quite clear they want her to be seen as someone essentially good at heart. She's only arguably evil at all in the "end justifies the means" sense. And "deepening madness"? She's not mad to begin with, just frighteningly ruthless.
1-03-2011 @ 6:29AM
My tin-foil hat: There is a splinter faction within the Forsaken loyal to the Horde and are trying to find a cure for the undead disease. With the help of some of the Taurens and other Alchemist within the forsaken discover that their souls are truely missing and without them all undead will all eventually go insane. Meanwhile Calia SI:7 girl is killed in an attempt to help Gilneas by Cromush. The head of this splintered organization meets with Cromush in secret with his concerns over the queen and offers an alternative. Calie, risen as a Foresaken, using a new version of the plauge with the added acception of binding her soul to a locket she now wears. Calia being the true heir to Lordaeron leads the revolution to take back undercity from Sylvannas. I'm sure in doing so they discover that she's been corrupted/or willing participant by something, old gods, burning legion, some new evil to take over the world. Either way she dies and Calia takes the throne. She goes to the Alliance to see what she should do but soon realizes the plight of the Foresaken. They don't want her, she's an abomination and like the rest of the Foresken needs to be destoryed. Cruel events to those that have helped her try and save the forsaken then solidifies her alligence with the Horde (This could actually be something that shows her people are just needed to save the world AKA the Burning Leigon is attacking and she can't just let Alliance fear and mistrust stop her from saving the world she loves).
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