Seriously. I can't stand it when I get through a nasty fight where nobody bothered CCing anything and somehow I managed to keep everyone alive, though it burned all of my mana, and after I'm done drinking I'm expected to top everyone off (usually using mana-expensive AoE spells so we can "hurry up"), which usually results in my having to sit down and drink again. If people just bandaged or ate food, we'd be going again as soon as I was done drinking the first time.

This. All the other advice in the original post is great, too, but there's no excuse to start a pull without full health and mana for everyone in the group. At this point healers all want to start every pull - except maybe unusually small/easy ones - with full mana, so if we're sitting down drinking/eating, everybody else might as well be, too.

Also, coming from a priest? I won't roll on your hit if you won't roll on my spirit gear, kthx. And gear with neither is good for everybody, not "dps gear." Healers don't want every piece of their gear to have spirit.

Thank you! A lot of people won't bother to eat, even if there is a mage handing out food. Then they complain because I drink, heal them, then stop to drink again. Ok then, I quit healing them between pulls so I don't have to drink as much. Then they complain about that.

Quit whining and either eat or learn first aid.

RE: Gerard, but some dps classes have spirit to hit converters, such as elemental shamans. In some cases, if such a player were dual specced into a healer role and maybe using dps runs as a way to gear up their healing spec, it could be equally useful.

I know what you mean.

I'm one of those mean healers though. If have to sit and drink mana, then everyone else has to eat up/bandage or they are going to find themselves dead on the next pull.

Exceptions are runs where I'm not going through mana consumables and sometimes runs where there is mage water.

It's even worse when the tank does it, but isn't setting up cc, good way to wipe fast, especially if they are half heath and ran off to pull the next set while I was sitting there eating.

Can we pleases vote this up and maybe add a new color for best comment ever?

I'm convinced this is why Blizzard introduced Lifegiving Seeds.

Regenerating to help your healer can be fun *and* provide comic relief!

I totally agree with this. I play a mage and I have to eat right along with the healer as my spells are very mana-intensive right now. I see the other dps and the tank bouncing off to the next mob at 70% health and it makes me crazy.

Oh well, at least I know the healer has cake to eat.

There is no greater blight upon the land than impatient players in a dungeon. None. I salute any healer or tank who tells them to slow the f-ck down and shut the f-ck up.

One phrase that I read here a long time ago, and that has stuck with me ever since is that the tank drives, but the healer controls the gas and brakes.


(To this, I also add: DPS, keep your hands inside the car or you're gonna get smacked. Don't pull on your own without approval.)

Moorit: haven't taken my mage alt through the new stuff, yet. Are you OOM fast even when using Mage Armor? When I was raiding in ICC, I never needed Molten Armor because I always had enough crit, etc. Please let me know if that's changed, what with the new gear and all.

@Vinyl - I actually was just thinking about cloth armor and mages/warlocks who wear spirit gear. One mage in my guild said that "raiding mages need spirit now." It was all I could do not to find his address and drive to his place to slap him senseless.

I would not get pissed about a elemental shammie or boomkin rolling on a spirit piece of jewelry.

@artifex

I've been running heroics on my mage and mana is not really a problem. I'm in arcane spec, which is the one that really depends on mana, and there are no issues when I use mage armor. As belt stated in an Arcane brilliance post arcane mages have two phases: a burn down phase and a recovery phase. First, you go all out and use arc blast many times in a row until you're almost oom, then use evocation to recover then you while in the recovery phase you only use arcane blast a few times so the mana cost doesn't get too high. You also have mana pots/mana gems if you need more mana. We don't have much a mana problem

Not just eating, any sort of regen you can give your group to get everyone fully set for the next pull is great. I'll throw some Chain heals around on my enhance shaman or throw a lifebloom on someone on my feral druid. It's nothing major, but if all they need is a little health to top them off, I might as well do that while the healer gets their mana up.

Most tanks I've encountered know to watch their healers and not pull when they're sitting down/oom/etc. DPS players: that means when the tank is just standing there, they might not be doing it just to spite you.

This has got to be the biggest unlearned lesson I've run into as well. I'm a mage and it's shocking how often the groups I'm in won't even use the free food to top off, or to heal up following a wipe.

And it's definitely a pet peeve of mine as well, seeing (specifically) warlocks and mages rolling on spirit; or priests, shaman, or druids rolling on hit. Everything in the middle is fair game, but those items should stay on the classes that can make full use of them.

THANK YOU. Just today I told everyone we could go faster if they would eat between pulls while I drink. Instead, one guy told me to do my job or re-roll.

Of course, it was a PuG. So he happened to die a lot during that heroic. Really, he only accidentally got healed through AoE healing. In the end, I don't even think we needed him at all through the entire heroic run.

It is just not respectful.

I completely agree with you, as do the rest of the healers in my guild. I don't understand why people can't eat their own food, if I obviously have no mana. Just because I have heal buttons, doesn't mean they always work for inconsiderate people. ;]