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1-09-2011 @ 6:22PM
Not that I believe Thrall will become an aspect or anything... but could you imagine the QQ from the hardcore Alliance players if he were to somehow take over as the Aspect of the Earth? Even if he were to take a truly Neutral stance afterwords, the QQ would be overwhelming! I'm actually hoping for it now.
1-09-2011 @ 6:42PM
Don't know why people would "qq" over it. I'm alliance and I think it would be awesome.
1-09-2011 @ 7:50PM
Same, I've been alliance since Vanilla and always will be but I have always loved Thrall. Seeing him as the next Aspect of Earth would be amazing. Thrall's already shown that he no longer has an interest in taking sides in the war even though he of course cares very much about the Horde's future.
1-09-2011 @ 9:29PM
It's about time they started turning Horde characters neutral, Alliance have lost enough to that.
1-09-2011 @ 10:56PM
I think I've come around to that thinking, that so many of the neutral organizations are humans. Thrall is the "golden boy that can do no wrong", so I'd rather him be a neutral agenct of the Earthen Ring or whatnot instead of a member of the horde.
1-10-2011 @ 12:54AM
See, I'm not sure about Thrall becoming the next Aspect of the Earth for two reasons.1) Horde-Alliance politics aside, I'm not sure he's ready for it. Compared to entities that have lived thousands of years or more, Thrall is horribly immature. Now, before you start jumping all over me, yes, I'm comparing Thrall to immortal beings, but in this case I think it's apt: they're in the running for ascendancy to the Aspect as well. It would be intellectually dishonest to ignore this.2) He's shown some pretty big lapses in judgment lately (i.e. the Wrathgate Incident as well as putting Garrosh in charge.) 3) He's not even originally from Azeroth. While growing up here, he was originally born on Draenor.I have nothing against Thrall... I believe he really does want is best for Azeroth, Horde and Alliance alike. But I just don't think he would be the best choice for Aspect. If I had to make a pick, I would pick Malfurion Stormrage, actually.
1-10-2011 @ 2:05AM
The previous Human leader became the next Lich King, share the immortal roles around!
1-10-2011 @ 3:10AM
@xoxotl(1) As H.L. Mencken once said, "The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom." None of the "immortals" of Azeroth have displayed much in the way of super-wisdom or maturity. The lore would suggest they're no better equipped to deal with the issues of Azeroth than anyone else.(2) Neither of those demonstrate any lapse in judgment on his part. The first was unfortunate, but unrelated to anything he did, and it's far, far too soon for anyone to declare the second wise or foolish without themselves appearing foolish. Time will tell how that plays out -- claiming to already know puts you in the loony-tunes prophet category (unless you're a bronze and have already seen the future).(3) This is simply not relevant, although a good argument could be made for the fact that this makes him better qualified for the job, given that Azeroth has been corrupted by malignant entities.
1-10-2011 @ 6:30AM
Actually, Durotan and Draka had already come through the portal and Thrall was born in the Alterac Mountains. Although his parents are not, he is from Azeroth.
1-10-2011 @ 7:51AM
Don't forget the pure black dragon egg we saved. I think Thrall will hold the mantle of Aspect of Earth until that baby grows up.
1-10-2011 @ 8:56AM
@Artificial -1) It can be argued that Thrall is just as wise and/or mature as being who have been in existence for thousands of years. But one thing that can't be disputed is that these immortal beings have something that Thrall doesn't: experience. They've been around for a long time, and they've seen (and learned) a lot. The amount of time Thrall has been around is but a blink of an eye to them. 2) Thrall is directly responsible for the Wrathgate Incident. Like it or not, as Warchief of the Horde, he is responsible for what his subordinates do under his watch. His lack of supervision and leadership allowed the coup of Undercity to happen (whether the coup was, in fact, secretly allowed or even encouraged by Sylvanas is a topic for another discussion.) As for the topic of Garrosh being named Warchief, well... paging Artificial. Phone call for Artificial on the red courtesy phone from Saurfang the Elder, Vol'jin, Baine Bloodhoof, and the ghost of Cairne Bloodhoof on line one.3) Interesting point. I never considered that.@Jake - Did he? I always thought he was actually born on Draenor. If I remember correctly, the dialog in the novel "The Shattering" seemed to imply it. Oddly enough, I can't find anything solid anywhere on where he was born.
1-10-2011 @ 11:42AM
You'd be hard pressed to find an Alliance player that didn't like or at least respect Thrall long before he was single-handedly holding back a dimensional rift and keeping the world from collapsing out in the middle of the Maelstrom.Blizz has gone out of their way to make him a sympathetic and accessible character for both sides, and while some may cry "Mary Sue", if it wasn't for Thrall, the Horde would just be the "Evil" faction in all of this.I was a Cairne fan, I like Thrall, but I've never gotten a Horde character beyond lvl 20 because I've never seen the players live up to all their self-made hype about how much more mature or supportive their community is. Your little comment just reinforced that for me. (with apologies to the greater community of decent folks of both factions)
1-10-2011 @ 12:55PM
Christie Golden's "Lord of the Clans" seems to imply that Thrall was born on Azeroth. He was, after all, an infant at the beginning of the story, still being nursed by his mother, and it seemed to me that the Frostwolves had been on Azeroth long enough to establish a new home in the Alterac Mountains, which would suggest at least a few months. Thrall could have easily been conceived on Draenor but born on Azeroth.
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