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1-10-2011 @ 5:24PM
FWIW, our guild has been similar. ( Aggramar) We've got our core cadre (more than two, thankfully.) We've always been small. We took all our mains to another guild that was raiding (but I wouldn't call it it a raiding guild) and eventually got into disputes with the leadership. What do you expect when you invite guys who used to have "Criminals" in their name? But we kept alts in the old name, as an escape hatch.Then we joined an alliance for a while as FLC, and ended up joining the largest guild in the alliance when it fell apart, again with our mains. And then, BC came out, that guild fell apart, and we put FLC back together. Then, we were able to start doing KZ with 10 after a little recruiting, but eventually we recruited up to handle the 25 mans. And then things fell apart again.Like you said, Wrath having the option of 10 mans for everything has helped a lot. We've stayed together through all that, occasionally having enough people for 25s but mainly staying on 10s, because we have a low tolerance for asshattery.The main thing I've learned is: if the old guild is still there, you will remain a clique inside the other guild, because it will always be in the back of your mind that you can say, "screw you guys, I'ma goin home." That's a warning for guilds who take in small guilds as well. You may very well be bringing in a seditious (to your purposes) clique. I think that Blizzards guild rep system will alleviate some of this, but since the rep doesn't go away in the old guild, it's still gonna be easy to say, "you don't like my way, I'll take the highway."
1-26-2011 @ 9:24AM
In a way, I agree totally with the larger guild absorbing a smaller guild. If you are going to be serious about a merger between two guilds, you dont just get all the members of the other guild join the larger. You create a whole new guild with a name made from both guild names or something completely new with no attachment to either guilds.With one of the guilds I have been associated with, we were approached by another guild to do merged raids with the intention of merging both guilds. But as we were the larger, we took the attitude that if you want to merge, you can join us... and it all fell apart. They ended up making a new guild (Damnation) and then merging with another guild (that had Dawn in their name) and became Dawn of Damnation. Those guys went on to kill the LK in heroic mode on a regular basis while the guild I was in stagnated.The GL would organise 25man raids, where perhaps 15 members of the raid were pug friends and the remaining 10 members were from the guild. The GL wouldnt organise 10man runs on ICC because he had his own little group going made up of friends and a few members of the guild.Since then, the members of the guild I used to run have all started up new toons or left the guild and I restarted our old guild as a place where we could get together and be social and maybe do some raids together. Since then, we have recruited carefully and we are actually prospering and having a lot of fun. We have a lot of alts in the guild and about 40-50 actual members and we are slowly getting organised for Cata raiding.Fun is the main aim of our guild and raiding together is a side effect of that fun.
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