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1-12-2011 @ 5:38PM
When heroics were first introduced (in TBC), they were advertised as a way of providing a real challenge to those who enjoy difficult PvE content in a 5man setting. Those who preferred the more standard, more casual-friendly 5man dungeon experience could run regular mode high-level dungeons. It made a lot of sense. If you didn't want to run heroics, no one was forcing you to. But if you were a more serious player who wanted something challenging to do other than a raid, heroics were for you. Wrath totally screwed that up. People thought of regular dungeons as something you only ran while leveling up (or perhaps for a very, very brief period of time after hitting level 80). Heroics were made significantly easier than even regular dungeons were in TBC. Now, in Cata, they are bringing the design back to something more like what we saw in TBC. Don't think of heroics as something you have to run. If you want something that requires a bit of coordination and skill, but that's pretty much guaranteed not to be a wipe-fest, run regular 85 dungeons. They are quite fun and the loot isn't all THAT different from the loot you get in heroics. However, if you're someone who wants a real challenge in a 5man setting, heroics are for you. What's the problem with that?
1-12-2011 @ 5:41PM
Grr sorry, that was meant as a reply to Outdatedkero's comment on page 1.
1-12-2011 @ 5:52PM
Honestly I don't think heroics ever where so difficult. Maybe for the very first few that you did with leveling gear. But it is not hard to get a decent gear set. There are a lot of craftable items, a lot of BoEs on the AH, and most slots can be covered from JPs. Once your group is averaging more than 340 ilvl they are easy and at 346 ilvl even the achievements are relatively easy bar maybe Headed South.
1-13-2011 @ 4:38PM
Except for the valor points. I'd happily run normals during the weeks and leave the heroics for weekends, if I could get at least some vp's. Even if it was like ten times less points or something. I've been trying to run one heroic through LFG every morning, before work. With 40 min wait plus wipes and ragequits, I only finish one or two a week. I'd rather be able to comfortably finish one every day, and take longer to accumulate the same amount of points.
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